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Monster Hunter selling more than PKmon

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  1. GamerCon

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    I find it kinda funny how people are desperately trying to find something to celebrate in. Spin to the extreme.

    Spin step 1: Say what's supposedly the best, and undermine it with something that is supposed to sell badly.
    step 2: Comment on it's rivals. Then try and turn around the reason for a lack of sales figures as a bad thing, despite it actually not really counting (i.e. Pokemon went on sale September 2006, allowing for the best fans to buy their copy before 2007, so that it doesn't count them in).
    step 3: Have an admission in the middle, where people don't really notice (it's a psychological effect. We best remember things in a list how they began and how they ended).
    step 4: ***** about the fact that the Japanese don't seem to like Western games.
    step 5: Comment about the rivals again, saying who was the best technically (company-wise), but re-enforce the winner.
    step 6: Add seemingly nonesensical (to the article itself) raw data for all consoles, to leave the reader with a sense of "unbiasedness" in the article.
    step 7: Let the fans take this onto forums to congratulate over having the "best", whilst thinking of another way to make the latest figures of something seem like they're doing amazing.
    Whilst all this is technically true, I'm mostly doing this to peeve fanboys off.
    I suppose it's just how you read it.

    Though whilst Sony is doing the victory jig, I'd say that if Sony uses this, like it does any other piece of "evidence", it'll just go to show that Sony would rather fake victory, than admit that something needs to be done.

    Anyway, after my kinda depressing reply, I think I need sleep (maybe why I'm, cranky)...
     
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    Bubble still holding.

    As it may be just recently and not counting when pkmon was released, that would be intresting to see though, the PSP has fewer out there then DS. Not a very big victory, true, but when you think that there are fewer PSP's, its right impressive when a games sells more with less.

    Sony in general has been selling more consoles. PSP, PS2 and PS3 have all gone up. Knowing Sony has many more games planned, I can only imagine how much the sales will be come christmas.
     
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    So it's a semi-victory. It's a victory for Monster Hunter or Capcom, because it's their game. It was despite Sony's PSP that it got top place.

    Sony in general has been selling more consoles than Nintendo generally or just the Wii or DS on it's own?

    Demand fluctuates a little generally, especially when hyped up games come out (not saving over hyped, just hyped). I'm sure Wii's sales will spike once Mario Galaxy is released, so long as the demand has been met before then...

    I'm sure we'll see a significant increase, as with all consoles.

    ...Funny thing about Christmas...
     
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    how could you compete against wii sports it comes with the wii console
     
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    Not in Japan. Even says it in the article:

     
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    It was sold seperatly in japan.

    Not saying PS is selling more then Nintendo, just they are all increasin where others are slowly dropping, or in the 360 case quickly dropping.

    Im curious how many Wiis will sell during christmas. Almost everyone will have one so it may just be software sales.
     
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    so software sales will be huge due to the new games that will be released by then like ssbb and smg
     
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    sony usually starts off slow, the winner is usually the one still running strong. Example, ps2 games are still being made and its a last gen console.
     
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    Pokemon has sold so many copies is nauseas. To brag you sold more copies over a game empire like The Sims for a brief moment isn't bragging rights. Then again I'd be happy to see anything eventually dethrone Pokemon. Yawnfest.
     
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    The latest figures have come in. The Wii is still increasing, it's only the DS lite that has fallen (out of all Nintendo consoles).

    http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/06/japanese-hardware-sales-jun-25-jul-1-slippery-slope-editio/
    - DS Lite: 157,435 6,453 (3.94%)
    - Wii: 73,919 8,337 (12.71%)
    - PSP: 38,305 5,321 (16.13%)
    - PS2: 16,316 4,354 (36.40%)
    - PS3: 11,914 2,333 (24.35%)
    - Xbox 360: 3,154 215 (6.38%)
    - Game Boy Micro: 377 93 (32.75%)
    - GBA SP: 179 49 (37.69%)
    - Gamecube: 111 29 (35.37%)
    - DS Phat: 45 15 (50.00%)
    - GBA: 16 16 (N/A%)

    It seems even the Wii alone is beating all Sony consoles put together.
    PSP, PS2 and PS3 together: 66,535
    Wii: 73,919

    Although bearing in mind, that the Wii thirst isn't even satisfied yet (there's still people looking for them apparently), we'll begin to see what Nintendo can churn out rather than figures on what people want. In essence, much like launch, the number of consoles sold is a definite number. The demand for it isn't. Ergo, the number of units sold only shows how fast Nintendo can churn them out, rather than how "popular" it is.

    I don't think there's any way of telling that at the moment. Everything would be speculation.

    But I speculate that the Xmas period will still hail more consoles sold than any other month of the year.

    True. But past success is no guarantee of future success. There's many other ways of reasoning that would point to the PS3's doom. Things like "most powerful console never wins". Not saying it's true, just saying that "predictions" like that are always flawed by the fact that this is a completely new situation.

    Oh, and half the reason why PS2 games are still being sold is because of the PS3. Also partly the Wii too. It doesn't indicate that the PS3 will have the same success though.
     
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    Not saying PS consoles combined is selling more than Nintendo but it is going up in sales as other produces will be going down. When the Wii starts to slow down to about 15-20k, it wont be cause no one wants one, it would be cause everyone has one. But when we look at PS2 compared to GC, yea we can SO do that, we see the PS2 is selling like it was new. It also further proves that Sony made the PS2 damn near perfect. I wouldnt be surprised if in 2010 the PS2 is still pushing units in the double digits and Nintendo's Wii is selling 100 a week.

    I expect the Wii sales to fall drasticly. After Mario, Brawl and Metroid, what else is there? Sounds a lot like the GC line up with, Mario, Melee, and Metroid.
     
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    These:

    Opoona
    Ghost Squad
    EA Playground
    Disaster DOC
    The Simpsons
    Harvest Moon Heroes
    Super Mario Galaxy
    Dragon Blade
    River King
    de Blob
    MySims
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    DQ:MQTM
    No More Heroes
    Mari&Sonic
    Mario Strikers Charged
    NiGHTS

    Not good enough? Throw in games like Alien Syndrome and such.

    Ppl are gonna want these. I can asure you that these'll sell :yesnod:
     
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    De Blob?? Try De Biggest waste of money since No More Heroes. I saw a trailer that and thought it was a joke, then it said No More Heroes Wii. Speachless, thinking a game thats real, was a joke.

    Sims, not likely since the PC ones kinda suck and im sure it wont be online.

    EA Playground. A game that simulates a playground. Your God, what are games becoming? Did you ask yourself "WTF is this ****?" or were you actually excited about going to a fake playground? Keep pedophiles away from the kids I suppose.

    The best game on there is NIGHTS.
     
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    I agree with the bold text and not sure about de Blob... Isn't it a free PC game made my senior high school students???? Must be easy for a team to develop and it'll sell at normal price?! WTF stop with the shitty ports.
    I still have a feeling it'll sell.

    I like the look of No More Heroes though. I like the idea of an otaku with a lightsaber clone. Many destructive occurances and anime/Star Wars dreams of granduer, a dorks idea of heaven I guess. :lol:

    I think I'll at least rent the blocky cute animesims. :/

    I s'pose I agree with mosta what ya said.
     
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    Ahh, so you're now predicting. Not in the realms of Factual evidence. Fair enough.

    And when do you predict that will be?

    Considering PS2's failure rate to Gamecube, theoretically, a possible reason people buy more PS2's is because their old ones broke outside of warranty. It's not like it's a case of "everyone has one", it's a case of "I need one to replace my old one".

    Actually it proves the opposite. It also proves that there's a lot of hype about it, not that it's actually "perfect".

    While more likely to do that then the PS3 doing that, I think the Wii will do well. Why? Because of a much broader target audience.

    Wait til E3 for that. There's always tonnes of games that will really excite us just around the corner. At least we don#t have to wait until 2008/2009 for the Wii's big hitters...
     

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