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My Wii games look worse in HD

Discussion in 'Nintendo Wii Chat' started by Limbo, Jan 27, 2008.

  1. Limbo

    Limbo God Among Rabbids

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    I haven't posted on this forum in a long time (not that I was ever a huge poster), but I'm getting back into the Wii in anticipation of SSB, but I have one problem that's frustrating me.

    My Wii looks terrible on my Samsung HDTV.

    Yes, I'm pluggin in the cords right, I have everything set up correctly, but games on my hdtv which is about two years old look terrible. Jagged edges appear in places i didn't think possible, and the graphics are reallllly disappointing.

    When I plug the Wii into my much older, normal TV, everything looks fine, and there are fewer jagged edges and everything is just...tidier on the screen.

    I need some advice, because I am someone who enjoys quality graphics in their games (kill me now), and I feel like I'm getting cheated out of the best picture I can get.

    I have a 480p cable, and I'm considering buying a new HDTV to play Wii on, and need any advice you can dish out.

    What type of HDTV should I get? LCD? Plasma?
    What brand?
    Any other advice?

    Anyways, I didn't know whether to put this here or in the Nintendo hardware section, since it's not really a problem with my Wii. Thanks for listening, and I'm glad to be back.
     
  2. LiquidD

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    it's not your tv. it's just the crappy wii graphics and 480p is not true hd so you should expect some jaggies there.
    i know, everyone is going to flame me and tell me how i have never played on an hdtv before, 480p is hd, and i'm and idiot and then before i come here to check on what people have posted, my post will get deleted.
     
  3. Limbo

    Limbo God Among Rabbids

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    So you're saying non HD looks better than HD because 480p isn't true hd?

    Would it be better than to buy a newer non-hd tv that has component inputs? I read in another thread that component cables improve non hdtvs as well, but the tv has to have inputs for them.
     
  4. zapasant

    zapasant Where is your god now?

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    i dont think the wii suports HD, i dont know why it would look worse tho, im not an expert in that, sorry
     
  5. LiquidD

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    it probably just looks worse because his tv is bigger. is your hdtv bigger than your standard tv?
     
  6. bamawii

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    my wii looks great on our Sony 60''.......I have a projection flat panel.....not a plasma. I also think that makes a big difference
     
  7. masterjedi

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    I have a '46 Samsung DLP tv and my Wii games look fine. I don't even run the component cables. I think the size and perhaps the type of tv have a lot to do with it. I have a friend who has a '56 DLP tv and some of his Wii games look terrible; particularly his Mii channel.
     
  8. LiquidD

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    maybe it is bigger tv's...?
     
  9. bamawii

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    bigger is better.....
     
  10. LiquidD

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    i really don't agree... i mean, there is a reason for 720p, 1080p and all that junk. it's not like you're going to get the same resolution of a ps3 on 1080p on your wii only because you have a bigger tv.
     
  11. Bloodfin182

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    I didnt read the entire thread, but you did buy/or are using the Wii component cables, right?

    I upgraded to a 32" HDTV, and my Wii games looked absolutely terrible until I got the component cables. Then go to your console settings and switch it to HD.....looks great for me now
     
  12. LiquidD

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    you should have read the entire thing because he said that he had all the connections right.
     
  13. sremick

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    Large HD televisions magnify the shortcomings of the Wii's limited SD graphics. The digital scaling wrecks havoc on the aliased graphics ("jaggies"), the bigger screen makes them larger, and the sharpness of LCD/plasma makes the artifacts appear crystal clear.

    There have been many, many discussion threads about this already.
     
  14. Singhson

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    HD TV outputs 720p, and the wii outputs max 480p!
    YOU might have a 1080p which might be amplifying the edges, just pop into the place you bought your tv from and ask reccommendations, some of them really know thier stuff. Whats the model numer of your Samsung?
    we're buying a M86BD model, that 1080p too, we'll see how that goes.
    If your looking to get a new tv though anyway, check these out, they're WAY outta my budget
    http://www.wiichat.com/lounge/49183-check-out-these-new-tvs.html

    and here's the best tv overall,

    http://www.wiichat.com/lounge/48371-buying-new-tv-best-buys.html

    these are UK tested Model's i'm sure they'll be around where you are, this same firm also said that for RELIABILITY Samsung and Sony come out on top just 4% ahead of Panasonic, but Panasonic tv are very good Technology wise, But sony and samsung are closing that gap, so they're about equal!
    LOL, I've seriously done lots of research on tv's man, anything you need to know just ask

    l8r
     
  15. zapasant

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    actually, it could really be your tv, because i have played my wii on my aunts enoumous HD tv, and it looks perfect
     
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    yeah, zapasant93 has a point, it might just be a hand shake problem from tv to console try it on another hd tv, or next best similar product to yours!
     
  17. Sterculius

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    it's more likely just an issue of trying to put SD data on an HD TV. I just got a 32" LCD HDTV yesterday and came home started messing around with different things on it DVDs, games, cable tv...etc.

    Just to compare I plugged in my xbox 360 first on SD output, and then on HD out put. The SD looked HORRIBLE with blurry textures and different colors than normal, all kinds of stuff. But the HD out put looked very crisp with every color and texture looking like it was supposed to. So I'm assuming it's just that the SD output is expecting to be on an SD tv, and thus doesn't quite show up correctly on HDTV. Just like how when you play GBA games on gameboy advance they look crisp and everything, because they're MEANT to be on that little screen and are programmed for it with the reflective LCD in mind and all that, but if you pop it into the GB-Player for gamecube, it looks a little blurry and the colors are slightly off.

    I haven't got around to trying out the Wii on it yet though, I'll update when I do. I'm at work right now, so it'll be a while.
     
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  18. Deanis

    Deanis Tip#67: Sell Your Wii

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    Plugged into a Sony 42" 1080p, Wii looks pretty damn good. It's certainly clear and sharp...Low-res textures look particularly muddy, but then they do on our 55" rear-projection anyway....

    I don't think theres too much you can do, different TV's process lower res stuff better than others, and obviously the more expensive ones seem to do it better. (The Sony's picture looks 720p, eg it gets upscaled).
     
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    Turn the sharpness down. Works like a charm :yesnod:
     
  20. wezeles

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    its not the Wii its most likely your T.V!!

    we have had this problem posted on here many times.

    Alot of newer HDTV's specially Plasma and LCD are in a fixed resoultion... meaning you dont have the backwards compatability in order to play "CURRENT" media format like the Wii,VCR,DVD players and 90% of the t.v. channels on the air today... You probably are noticing how bad non HD t.v. channels look aswell...aswell as anything not in your native screen resolution...

    First i recomend messing with your settings on your t.v. see if you can drop down the resolution on each channel to the same level as the signal going into it.. be it 480I 480p 720I 720p 1080I 1080P... you get my drift...
    alot of these "high end" HDTV's don't give you this possability and only let you use the Native HD setting so someone with a 1080I or 1080P t.v. everything they watch is going to look like crap aside from HD signal that matches the t.v... Which you will quickly find out doesn't give you alot to do..lol

    If your T.V. is this style of t.v. with a native resolution that can't be change go and pick up a HD upconverter/Scaler that matches the native resoulution on your t.v., A good one will normally range from 250-300 dollars and will have a nice onscreen adjustment menu to work any of your "Current" resolution devices... If you want some brand recomendations ill give you some... in essence its the same as all these new upconverting DVD players... it will take an old signal like 480 and upconvert it to look like 1080... still not as great as if it was originally that way but it will make a Wii look HD when its done...

    Everyone Loves there HDTV untill they find out its not the current tech level and most everything is not HDTV yet.
    If you spend the bucks your lucky to get 10% of your t.v. channels in HD. It will slowly change but this will not be 100% for another 10-20 years.. The big DTV switch is just forced broadcast in digital signal instead of analog, and it is what boosted the production of HDTV's and a few of the HD channels on the market. But the switch doesnt force anyone to send signal in HDTV at all it just makes it possibal because of the switch... So its not a quick changeover like people think..

    i recomend next time you buy a big new t.v. make sure its a backwards compatibal one... I've got a 52inch HD DLP samsung and it can play 1080P HD channels or the old School VHF signal Atari, and make them both look perfect..lol
     
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