thoughts on the nerfed veteran moves anyone? personaly i think some of the nerfs completely change the strategy of the character...which may or may not have been the intent. like fox and his nerfed upward attacks and his b air. now his power moves are all horizontal making him much more similar to falco of melee then to fox... barring the shine spikes- on the other hand some of the nerfs were for the best in my opinion. marth is still argueably the best character in close combat but he is now at a distinct disadvantage in recovery evening things out better. one last thing... WHY did yoshi need nerfing????