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PS3 gets headtracking?!

Discussion in 'Playstation Consoles' started by T3kNi9e, Feb 27, 2008.

  1. T3kNi9e

    T3kNi9e Conquistador

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    First and foremost... for any mods wondering I posted this in Wii Chat instead of the PS3 forum because alot of people expected Nintendo to grab this up for their console, but ironically PS3 did it!

    Source and Videos Here
     
  2. Kingston

    Kingston Mohh2 Name: TheHater

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    D'oh! :mad2:
     
  3. thas

    thas Canadian/Gamer for life

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    actually the boom blox game for wii apparently uses headtracking according to the ign podcast.
     
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    Dbomb3 wiiwii

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    sony again with the copying
     
  5. Douten

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    Wii has a head tracking feature with its remote. That one block puzzle game w/ Steven Speilburg directing will have it as an easter egg. I can only hope developers take this into consideration :3
    You can see example of it, among other sweet stuff you can do w/ the wii mote here:
    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/
     
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    no IR headgear?... what do you need to make it work? a bluescreen?
     
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    You mean for the method of Johnny? the most basic thing you can do, like he said in the video, is mount the sensor bar to a hat or something w but if you happen to get some IR lights you can find some good way to work with them. I think in the Bloom Blox game you can use the remote in somewhat for head track? oO Don't know too much detail on that.
     
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    no... i've seen johnny's old video..

    i meant how does the PS3 do it w/out IR headgear?!?

    how can it track your head... bluescreen? wear a reflector sticker between your eyes?

    hard to picture.
     
  9. Icandy

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    They are not sure head tracking will make the final cut in Bloom Blox and the preview I read on it never mentioned it. I think this will be interesting to watch develop.

    You need a PS Eye camera, idjut, that tracks your head movements.
     
  10. awdawg

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    That doesn't sound fun to me at all, talk about a sore neck.
     
  11. thas

    thas Canadian/Gamer for life

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    wasnt that for the ps2? whats the point of bringing that back. well i shoudl be asking if this eye camera is anything similar to the eye toy. seems to be the same thing if you ask me. then again i haent heard much about it yet anyway.
     
  12. Caliko

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    Funny thing is that Sony stole that idea from the game boy camera.
    One idea Nintendo made that I haven't seen yet is the one where you could put your face into a game/character. No, I'm not talking about Mii's.
    The Idea was that you could snap a photo of your face then apply it to a character in the game. This idea was made many years ago.
     
  13. Extra Life Mushroom

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    there are other devices that do what the PS Eye camera can d but advertise they van do it better! I just saw a video on ign where an independent company created the "z-cam" which although very much like the eye-toy can detect not only movement, but three dimensional space (like the wii-mote).

    They touted that they potentially have the technology for a the Wii 2.0 since they took the motion controls to the next level. And interestingly enough with out any peripherals. The device alone senses your entire body and detects even delicate gestures.
    But the most interesting thing I saw was the ability to set a cut ff point. Let's say you're in a crowded room and there are people walking behind you whilst you play a motion sensitive boxing title. To prevent the camera from getting confused, you can set the wavelength of the field to only reach let's say 5 feet in front of the device. So any friends who decide to jump up and down behind you in an attempt to screw up your game will not even be recognized by the device as they are beyond the range you set.

    Hopefully Nintendo will have a few talks with these guys and try and negotiate a deal of some sort for future console generations.

    Strange isn't it how motion sensitive gaming is all the rage right now, even though it's been around for years? I guess even technology that's declared 'obsolete' can still make a comeback if implemented cleverly and marketed tastefully enough. The wii is proof of that. And now sony wants their slice of the motion sensitive pie. I wonder if this may cause a change of course for the future of console gaming or is motion sensing just a passing fad?
     
  14. Byuakuya

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    That sounds great. I really don't mind which company (Sony or Nintendo) decides to take up Head-tracking, as long as the consumers, such as myself, are happy in the end. :)
     
  15. WiitnessID

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    Sweet this sounds like the video tracking software used in the special effect biz. I wond if a pointer will come with it because if you have no reason to move side to side then it just becomes sorta pointless. It's cool they actually got this in the eye toy. This is actually bad for MS not nintendo. People actually buy the Wii for the Wii mote which is not really the case with the eye toy right now. They even had that cool augmented reality thing for that card game that was cool but no one really bought it.
     
  16. Floydd

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    Head Tracking.. wow.
     
  17. Caliko

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    I think the field sensitivity setting would be too complicated for the average consumer. The fact that the camera doesn't know "Who" you are is a huge problem. I think it would be cool if they made a "smart" camera that identifies the player by hair color, skin color, clothes and possibly face.

    Sounds like a cool idea but I don't see this becoming a final Wii oriented idea. I think Nintendo should spend their money on advancing the sensor bar technology and motion control accuracy. And hopefully a better Remote speaker.
     
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    copying off of what? nintendo didnt come up with this, they just said they wanted it first. your an idiot and sony doesnt "copy" that's childish to say. i seriously sick of the wii fanboys here. yeah "wii"chat i know, but dont be a fanboy. if you dont like to hear good ps3 news then dont come to the PS3 SECTION.

    anyways, that wasnt very impressive, they need to work out the kinks and apply it toa game of some sort..
     
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    I think that sony is wasting their time/money on this. No one buys a ps3 for a "casual" experience. No one wants to have a "Wii-like" experience on a ps3.

    They want their impressive graphics, and familiar classic playstation controls. After laughing at the wii-mote as a gimmick for so long, why would they stand by a product that offers that very same gimmick and support it as a viable means of play?

    The ps3's strong selling point is not that it's all inclusive, or noob friendly. It's touted as a serious piece of gaming hardware. And what this Eye toy amounts to is an expensive web cam with head tracking to place yourself into some casual games.

    The entire purpose of this device is to get sony into the casual gaming market. I cannot see a "hardcore" gamer using this device, unless it offers some functionality to upcoming "real" games.

    This goes to show that not even sony is immune to hype, so here is their vain attempt to encroach on the wii's territory. I can assure you it's going to amount to nothing more than a gimmick in the end. (although it will sell a lot initially) This is what the wii was made for, the entire system revolves around motion technology. Whereas ps3's power comes from their impressive visuals and traditional controls (which in recent years have become the standard for console controllers.)
    So there is no reason to change what has worked fine for the past 10 years all because its what the "popular console" is doing and it works for them.

    I mean come on Sony! Are you so intimidated by the wii that you're going to attempt to outdo them at their own game? Not to say that the PS eye won't be able to do just that, but since the device is really just a gimmick, no one will take it seriously and it will be largely ignored by the fans. Despite the fact that it could very well have the potential to be a "wii-killer", I doubt many people will care. They want Kratos on their ps3 not "ps3-play/sports/etc"

    Because it's not about out-doing the competition. It's about finding your niche in the gaming world and fine-tuning it to a science, so that players who want that experience will come to your company specifically. There is no gaming world anymore, just lots of sub-levels each with their own demands and shortcomings. Different consoles cater to different sub-levels. When a console decides to become the master of all of them they end up stretching themselves to thin thus becoming jack-of-all-trades, master of none. Whilst the others are masters of their own specific fields.
     
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  20. Caliko

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    So if you say Sony is copying you're suddenly a fanboy?? And since when has speaking the truth been a bad think? You sound like a Sony fanboy yourself. If you don't know what people mean by Sony copying, please read the last post.

    Sony was claiming the Wii Remote was a gimick when they failed to realize features like Blu-Ray movies and downloading music are MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE of a gimmick than the Wii Remote can ever be because those "extras" have abosolutely nothing to do with gameplay.
     

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