i guess im here to apolagize to the wii chaters on here(not the fanboys) for some of my posts and rants. NO my views on these havent changed and won't till things get better. But i guess i have to say how can third parties make good games when nintendos games just blow them out the water. Take for instance Medal of honor, yes it has great controlls but lets be honest i think if metroid and this game came out at the same time i could almost garentee that metroid would win even without multiplayer. I still enjoy metroid better than medal of honor, i for one didnt think there was any thing wrong or any thing that needed improving on the controls of that game. Still in my opinion the best fps on the wii. Then you take Zelda, wii sports, links crossbow, and i realy hate to say it mario party 8. and you have still better games then the best third party game out there. Don't get me wrong RE4 is a great game but other than controls its still the same game it was 3 years ago.(but if you are going to port this is the standard you need to meet) Then you have Galaxy and the every so hyped and anticipated SSBB. after that wtf can a third party developer do? I for one have not ever played a ssb game but garnerd from the hype and talk of this game i don't think there is a game that will get that much attention or hype on the wii. Galaxy Galaxy Galaxy all i can say is wow. I realy think they should have kept this game under the radar a little while longer despite my beliefs that they should make more games i do but this one omg. Mario galaxy is one of the best games i have played in a long time, coming next will be COD4, God OF War, Fable, Ninja Gaiden. To be honest its going to be real hard for even nintendo to top this one. I don't see a better game coming from nintendo or any other company for a long time.(for the wii maybe gaming period) If i thought games for the wii were bad now im really going to think they are now. This is the height of the wii's innovation, games have to step it up now. this game has showed what the wii can look like when done right. This game has showed what real fun can be like when a game is done right. This game has showed that dispite most of the views on here that this type of game can entertain and have value to a hardcore gamer. In all its greatness that it is other than ssbb what can raise the bar higher than this? Please don't say wii fit. I think Nintendo has raised the bar for developing on the wii it may have even raised the bar a little too high for its self. Don't get mad and throw a fit because after all this is only and will always be just my opinion on the matter. Its not the end of the world and i don't need your negative personal comments.