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Rrod What Is It And What Causes It?

Discussion in 'Xbox Consoles' started by borabora00, Mar 20, 2008.

  1. borabora00

    borabora00 FEMALEGAMERDON'TB ALARMED

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    i'm thinking real hard about buying a xbox 360 but i'm getting scared and confused about what version of xbox is best and this damn red ring of something i see people on hear talking about. what causes this to happen and how can i avoid this from happening to me. what precautions do i take for not letting this happen to me?
     
  2. T3kNi9e

    T3kNi9e Conquistador

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    Its caused by alot of different things but the main problem is the 360's overheat and the cheap metal on the motherboard would melt.

    The new consoles have better material and better heatsinks so they don't heat up as much anymore.
     
  3. Minto

    Minto You're kidding, right?

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    i've had my 360 for a year and its fine and Microsoft are making all new 360's with better hardware like motherboards etc....

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    Damm T3kNi9e beat me too it
     
  4. blueovalboy7

    blueovalboy7 They call me Hammy!

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    Haha. :lol: You guys are funny. It is dubbed as "General Hardware Failures" and generally is caused by what T3k said.

    Also they are constantly developing new motherboards and CPU/GPU set-ups to help the 360 run cooler and more efficiently. With the newest batch there is a much lower failure rate than that of the originals. Also you are backed by a 3 year warranty from Microsoft, so if it does happen you can get it fixed for free.
     
  5. Sovieto

    Sovieto Banned

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    its not from overheating. ive had my 360 running 14+ hours straight playing gears of war non stop and it didnt overheat in a closed room.

    i then turned it on another time and 10 minutes later it RROD'd, its from the **** that keeps the pieces inside together, sauder? or something.. coming undone. they used a real cheap kind and didnt do it very well when they first made it.
     
  6. kinryuten

    kinryuten Was I bannd?

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    I keep mine sideways and the "bottom" is cool all the time. Plus the back is only warm, not ready to nuke my apartment.
     
  7. ProShooter

    ProShooter WiiChat Member

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    Dude you have 3 year warranty on it, chillax. What version of Xbox? Definitely 360. I guess you could get a fan.
     
  8. alexbel

    alexbel WiiChat Member

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    just get a warranty
     
  9. ProShooter

    ProShooter WiiChat Member

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    Do you have to buy the RROD 3 year warranty?
     
  10. Splash_King

    Splash_King The Scrubbiest of Hunters

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    No, Microsoft's 3 year warranty is 100% free, at Microsoft's own cost.. If they made you pay for it, they'd be d*cks as it's their fault for the 360's early batches being so faulty.. My own 360 elite is yet to RROD yet. Owned it for a bit more than a year, so I'm going strong.. for now.
     
  11. Happy

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    It's a general hardware problem so can be caused by many different problems. However a few new cooler chipsets have been released since. You are covered for 3 years against the RROD.
     
  12. DBloke

    DBloke The last original
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    Yet to get one
    I feel left out
     
  13. strommsarnac

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    RRoD is caused by faulty solder. This solder was purchased by Microsoft's console manufacturer from three sources. Two of those sources outsourced their supply and lied to MS that they were actually manufacturing it themselves. That solder had impurities in the mix. What happens is that as the components (circuit board and chips) heat and cool, they do so at different rates. The solder is supposed to accomodate those differences. However, the impurities in the 360's faulty solder cause the solder itself to heat/cool non-uniformly. The end result is that the solder either pulls away from what it's touching (board or chip pins, etc.) or it forms cracks in itself and raises resistance levels and lowers voltage while also becoming hotter. The ONLY fix is to replace the existing faulty solder with new clean solder. Otherwise the problem will continue to reoccur.

    ALL non-Jasper 360's may be affected by that "2/3's" rule. Jaspers are the only consoles which positively do not have any of that faulty solder in them. From the years I have followed this, I have found no evidence that anything but the Jaspers have modifications to their design. Sure, Microsoft threw out the bad solder and resourced for replacement, but the old consoles still have the heating/cooling issue. Just the solder is better able to deal with the extreme differences without failing.

    The rule used to be "Don't want an RRoD, but an Elite 'Cause they're redesigned". Total BS. I fell for that. I bought one and it still RRoD'd on me. Hadn't used it for over a month, powered it on...DEAD!! Took me two hours dealing with Xbox support on the phone, email, digitial pictures, VIDEO!!!! before they admitted that Elites can RRoD. Fast on the replacement though, just 5 days. However, I was promised I'd get a Jasper and bastards sent me an Elite that's 6 months older than mine was and obviously a repaired unit. Noisey as frak. Mine was whisper quiet.

    Jaspers are just now hitting the street. However, there are still non-jaspers in warehouses, so watch out.
     
  14. Roast

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    If you want to be sure about what console you're getting, look on the sticker with the bar code on it, if the lot number is anything higher than 750(?) you're getting at least a Falcon chipset, which was the first remake of the Xbox. This doesn't mean you're not going to get a RROD, but the chances are significantly lower. (Around the same chance as a Ps3 to crash).
     
  15. T3kNi9e

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    This is true, but the way I read was to check the amperage rating of the 360. Which is around the barcode next to 12V DC. The older consoles have an amperage rating of 16.5 while the Jasper amps is 12.1

    Here's what I found on the web:

    Im gonna be sure to keep this in mind if my 360 breaks. Because instead of repairing it I think i'll just buy me a new arcade version since they're so cheap now.
     
  16. tommy94

    tommy94 Call of Duty addict :)

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    I've had my elite since wednesday 25th march and i have had one red ring twice. Is this normal for it?
     
  17. T3kNi9e

    T3kNi9e Conquistador

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    25th of march this year or 2008? or 2007?

    Because if you got it just last week then no that's not normal, but if you got it last year then that's normal I guess, if was manufactured a while back.

    Elites are not less likely to get RROD, they have the same chances as the normal ones. Except for the new new ones which are the Jasper's.
     
  18. Roast

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    Judging by the post he made about getting one, he got it this year and that's just bad luck. Unless you bought a second hand one, if so, shame on you! The new jasper chipsets aren't eliminating RROD they're just lowering the incredibly high chance that the Xbox360 once had (~15% is I recall correctly). So the chances of you getting a RROD on a brand new console, is about 2 or so %.
     
  19. ROB64

    ROB64 40lb box of rape

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    I guess, like strom***** whatever the hell that name is said, with the 2/3 deal, it's hit and miss with the old consoles. If you want to be safe, buy brand new and make sure you're getting a Jasper. But you could always try your luck with ebay and get a used one.
    There are some Xenon consoles that are still going strong today. Mine is a 2006 model, and is still going strong. *knock on wood*
     
  20. tommy94

    tommy94 Call of Duty addict :)

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    it was 2009 brand new from amazon. It works if i turn it off and then on again. It happened again this morning...:(
     

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