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Discussion in 'Nintendo Wii Chat' started by yungblood6, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. yungblood6

    yungblood6 Get Money Dummy

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    Its funny how when i say that the wii shortage is being done on purpose i get tons of people saying im just a wii hater, and im a dumb ****, and bla bla bla. but its funny how i and others on wii chat arent the only ones who think this. Its funny how people that are in the buisness world have the same, and some what differnt theory on the wii shortage that is going on. hmmm well i don't need your hate just posting the article you can judge for your selfs but before you go on your fanboy rants these are people from the wall street journal and i think they know more about buisness than us on here so with out further delay here ya go.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119697501146616201.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
     
  2. hencam[uk]

    hencam[uk] www.hencam.co.uk

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    I'm not saying your a dumb ****, but I think you are wrong about this huge conspiracy and fake shortages - if only for the reason that why would Nintendo benefit more from selling Wii's or DS's AFTER Christmas rather than before?

    The Christmas selling period is one that has always held more kudos, and the shortage of Wiis (and the price hikes of the ones that are available) mean that right now in the UK it's cheaper (yes cheaper!) to buy a PS3 than it is a Wii from real "bricks and mortar" shops.

    This isn't a good thing for Nintendo, so why would they create a false shortage? It doesn't make sense.

    The Wii is in short supply because they are are so damn fun, every family wants one. There physically aren't enough of them to go round.

    I feel sorry for those that have to plump for a PS3.... the shame! :blush2:

    Neil
     
  3. largedarry

    largedarry Waiting For Tomorrow

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    Well the article is a well written one, with no more than professional speculation about business practices..

    Basically Nintendo is a very conservative company, that in combination with current consumerism business practices (that also err on the side of too little stock) have led to not enough Wii's.

    Far from a conspiracy, but more than likely a completely believable explanation to the shortages.
     
  4. Radio

    Radio Hardcore Wii-er

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    Who cares? If it is a conspiracy than it is. What does it matter. What is the difference between conspiracy and a good sales trick. Let's focus on the fact that Nintendo's smarter then Sony and Microsoft. Let's turn this into love for the wii ^^
     
  5. Dinner

    Dinner Reading Rainbow

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    Couldnt of said it better.
     
  6. SixStringedStress

    SixStringedStress WiiChat Member

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    Take an economics class, demand will almost always be higher than quantity in this case because nintendo doesn't outsource it's production. I repeat: NINTENDO DOES NOT OUTSOURCE IT'S PRODUCTION. Do you understand that it puts a serious cramp in quantitiy unlike Microsoft and Sony who are much bigger entities that can handle production throughout the year and not just Christmas. I didn't need to get that from Wall Street. Also, you have to take into account, it's not Nintendo's fault that too many people are waiting in line to buy their Wiis only to turn around and sell them on ebay to turn $250 into $500. Whatever, I guess I am just a fanboy and you're probably not even going to read this.
     
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  7. kez

    kez WiiChat Member

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    Why so much hate against Nintendo? They're doing what's best for their bottom line - intended shortage or not.

    It makes no sense to constantly whine over who is winning the console war and whether or not it is due to some "conspiracy". Get over yourself, it is what it is. Pick a console and shut up. Be happy with the console(s) you have, be it a Wii, PS3, XBox, or whatever.

    ETA: For what it's worth, I don't think it's a conspiracy.
     
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  8. TiwazTyrsfist

    TiwazTyrsfist Dubito Ego Sum

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    So, I've been over this before.

    Nintendo is making 1.8 Million units a month now.
    To compare, Sony is producing roughly 300,000 PS3's a month.

    So why is the Wii hard to find? It's selling 350-400 thousand units A WEEK.
    Demand for the Wii is significantly higher than other units.

    Yes, gamers want a Wii, and a PS3, and a 360.
    But Grandma Also wants a Wii
    And the Gym coach wants ten of them.
    And, for that matter, so does a huge portion of the population who never wanted to play video games before.

    People, particularly Wall Street analysts, don't seem to understand how far outside the normal target market Nintendo has stretched with the Wii.
     
  9. AtomicB

    AtomicB Status: Idle

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    Yungblood,
    Quite frankly, I don't trust your opinion on anything to do with Wii.

    The post's of your's I have read have always been anti-Wii, or reason the 360 is better, or why Nintendo will lose the console war.

    Yeah. "Unbiased".
     
  10. blueovalboy7

    blueovalboy7 They call me Hammy!

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    Is it me or do you make a lot of pointless threads?
     
  11. mushroomedmario

    mushroomedmario ssb4life

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    he makes a lot of pointless threads
     
  12. samXcor3

    samXcor3 the best kid!

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    i'd have to say my new favorite thing about yungblood is he never goes back and replies to posts in his threads, especially when people prove him wrong. hell, in one thread i backed him up saying that friend codes are crap and he just accused me of "being up the companys ass" and being a "fanboy"...because i agreed with him...right...
     
  13. player911m

    player911m WiiChat Member

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    There is no conspiracy

    Most companies will gear up production in the summer to have a reserve for the coming holiday season. Well the shortage came about because they couldn't keep them in stock through the summer either.

    I don't know how this came about, but there is no difference in buying a Wii now or in August. You couldn't find them in a store regardless. I got mine in August and ended up having to wait outside in a line at my local Circuit City one Sunday morning.... in AUGUST!!!

    Nintendo is gaining nothing by having a shortage (except driving up demand), but in fact the shortage is leading people to purchase other systems and look at alternatives. THAT, my friend, doesn't fall in Nintendo's favor.

    Plus the point of the Wii is to have one in EVERY home. You can't do that when you can't keep up with the demand. Trust me, if Nintendo could keep up, it would. I'm sure Nintendo would love to sell hundreds of thousands of more consoles this Christmas.
     
  14. GC8

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    so let me get this straight? You think that Nintendo is intentionally holding systems back from the consumers meaning they are intentionally dropping their sales? What benefit does Nintendo get out of this?

    It would kind of make sense if the console wasn't to be sold and a set price because then they could mark up the ones that are being sold a ton...but that's not the case.

    Can someone give me a good reason behind why they might be doing this (besides creating a buzz, which is a dumb reason too lose out on so much sales). It's my understanding that they just can't make them fast enough...
     
  15. mgbl3

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    Just so you people know there ARE financial benefits to holding the supply back. For instance. Nearly every Christmas there's that one special toy...be it a furby, tickle-me-elmo, etc. It's always a toy that never expected to be big, but over time the supply doesn't keep up with the demand and the hype grows. Then the TV/newspaper will talk about how theres not enough of this toy to go around, and it makes kids want it. Parents hear about it and think it's a great toy their kids would enjoy. The hype grows and grows because of supply is smaller than demand (a good thing) and in the long run it will increase sales. The shortage makes people just want it more.

    Think about it. MORE people want the Wii just cause they hear about how impossible it is to find. Nintendo wants the talk about Wii shortage to stick through Christmas. It's essentially advertising the Wii and how great it is for them.

    It's smart for Nintendo not to saturate the market with Wii's, but to keep a steady pace that's not too little and too much to keep the demand high. Since when did smart business practice = conspiracy? This is a very common tactic and is used all the time.
     
  16. *Gymnast*

    *Gymnast* Wii rocks!

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    I think that they are doing it to increase hipe and make their units more desirable. They could also just be really popular. Whatever it is Nintendo needs to make more an QUICK!!I'm sure there will be allot of people this Christmas without wii's. I could be one of them............ :cryin:
     
  17. CrowTRobot

    CrowTRobot Blades Of Steel

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    I think it's your grammar that leads people to think you're stupid rather than your inane theories.
     
  18. LoganSix

    LoganSix WiiChat Member

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    To go along with that theory, Nintendo would have to increase the price of the Wii for their wholesalers. Since the Wii is $249.99 now, just like it was last Christmas, the hold back to increase demand theory doesn't work. There is no point in holding back supply to increase demand if the seller doesn't make more per item.

    Think 1973 Oil Crisis.

    Also, because Nintendo sells the Wii as the low cost options, hundreds of dollars cheaper than the XBox 360 and PS3 original prices, it goes against the theory of false shortages in order to sell a product without reducing a price.

    And to top things off, Nintendo is making a profit on each and every console, which Sony and Microsoft have never done on the PS3 or 360.

    And yes, it's another of Yungblood's anti-Wii posts
    Nintendo is purposely holding back supply in order to hype the Wii.
    Your proof : none
    My Argument : Nintendo has gone from making 1 million Wii's a month, to 1.4, to 1.8 in less than a year's supply. It is selling 2 to 4 times faster than both of the "current" consoles. It is on track to sell more than 100 million units in 5 years (which took the PS2 6 years to reach).
    Your Rebuttal : It's a conspiracy, don't pay attention to the media.
     
  19. mushroomedmario

    mushroomedmario ssb4life

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    See...i could maybe believe it if this weren't true

    It just dosn't seem like they're holding back....i could see the reason to do so, get hype up for the holiday season, than increase production up right before, but the production is already up high
     
  20. JAKE196

    JAKE196 Cogito Ergo Sum

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    IT'S THE FASTEST SELLING CONSOLE OF ALL TIME.

    *throws a chair at you*
     

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