I'v got a mate at work who wont begetting a Wii because "they suck" Hes main reason that its always the same games only with better graphics. I say if it aint broke dont fix it. i.e. there were many fun nights on mario cart from the orginal SNES, N64 and even the game cube, just so much fun. Then theres Zelda, ok the wind waker was a let down, but still a great game, then theres the Mario. These are all great games, fun games that you really enjoy for the game play more then the power of graphics or anything else. Yes i also have a 360, and that has its good points as well and its games, but for a fun multi-player where you can laugh and joke, you cant beat somthing like a bit of mario kart. the way i see it if Nintendo are still in business with this model when no others can it proves they are doing somthing right. and yes i know that they are 3rd in the wars. p.s. sorry for the dodgy post, im on one of them mini-laptops with out a nice sized keyboard.