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Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by gh05t, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. gh05t

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    ive been bored lately so i was just looking up stuff like time travel. does anyone think its possible?? if it was possible would you use it?

    imo i think it could be possible. if you think about it, it could have happened already. i read something saying that if you were to go back in time and save someone from dying it would cause the creation of a parallel universe where that person is alive in one and in another the person died. i dont know its really weird but im pretty interested in it. and i probably wouldnt use it because changing anything is wayy to risky. id love to go back in time and go out with that girl i liked soo much but if i think of past relationships ive always found someone better. lol this is just an example but altering the past can ruin your future if you think about it.
     
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    We already time travel noob
    Meaning that we tend to travel on a liner path with no vereation
    Time for us is allways going forward
    As for the second bit of text watch Back to the futuer part 2 for the best explanation
     
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    DRMARIO Controversial.

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    I think the theory is..
    Is space is time, time is space (Thus spacetime), and space is warped by matter..then theoretically, so can time.
    Time and space was created at the big bang. I'm not sure on this, but I think they're classed as one thing?

    There was one idea with an infinitely long tube spinning at the speed of time, in space, would create loops to the past.
    The latest one is some scientist wanting to make a time machine out of light, itself. It makes a sort of spiraling shape, with beams of light over lapping yadda yadda, and he wants to drop an elementary particle through it. He says it would probably work.

    I do believe it can be done!

    And the thing you're talking about, with the parallel universe idea, is called the Grandfather Paradox. If one were to go back in time and kill one's grandfather, then one's father could never have been born to have had the child that is this person who killed their grandfather. YET, this person MUST have existed to have killed his grandfather in the first place.
    So yes, If time travel is possible, the idea that another universe is created, a new space time, sounds sensible.
     
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    I have many beliefs in Time Travel.

    For a start, I believe in the "alternate present" theory. In my opinion, it's the only way another dimension could be created (Think about dimensions, the fourth is time and the fifth is alternate dimensions, and as such, you'd have to cross the fourth to get to the fifth).

    Strictly speaking, wormholes are meant to be holes in space. Since time and space are connected, theoretically it would be a hole in space.

    Of course, I don't believe time travel will be related to faster than light travel...

    There's been experiments whereby two clocks are synchronised, one stayed on earth, the other flew in a shuttle around the world (backwards I think - to what which way it's spinning). When they got the clocks together, they were out. Not by much, but by some amount.

    Although if there was a way to time-travel through a portal, then I would question if we could actually arrive. If the gaps in particles are ever-expanding, much like the universe itself, and you travel backward into a more compressed time, then when you come out, your particles may actually be too spread out to hold it's form. In essence, you'll explode into electrons and protons. That's my theory at least.

    Personally, I'd love to be able to time-travel. Of course, it'd be fun to see some of the changes that could be made...:
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    Id make it so that EA didnt get the licence for sports games
     
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    According to einstein, the quicker you travel, the slower time effects you. So astronauts are younger than what they would have been if they had never gone out to space.
     
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    I'd go back when I still lived in Boston, MA! xD

    Totally.
     
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    I don't think it's possible, but I haven't read that much about space and time and such to give scientific facts into why I think this, it's just in my mind I can't picture it.

    To me we're on the earth, time moves on and we're all just in orbit and yada yada ya, that's it. It's as simple as that. Time is moving us on. It's the same princaple as people saying 1 is really 0.9999999 or whatever, no, it's not. It's just 1. So to me I can't see how there can be other dimentions, parallel universes it's just us, on eath spinning around every day.

    But heyy that's just me, I'm open to any criticizm and maybe if I read into the matter more I'd have a different opinion, I'm not saying that's what I think and that's what's right. =] I just don't see how it can that's all.
     
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    Ever read The Forever War? Great piece of classic science fiction by Joe Haldeman - they travel FTL to the conflict area in weeks, and come back to earth and years have passed. Some great speculative writing - the weapons they return to are far more advanced than what they left with, they have huge amount of interest on their combat pay, the Earth's social system changes radically.

    Great read and reasonably short (an easy over-the-weekend read).
     
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    or the James Bond licence. Rare just set the standard with Goldneye.
     
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    surfinrach90 I GOT A JAR OF DIRT.

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    Know you were aiming at DrMario with your post [DT] but that sounds interesting, I might try and find that =]
     
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    Oh, it was kind of directed at the thread (even though it was motivated by the Dr's post :D )

    Yeah, it's a terrific book (and an interesting commentary on war) - probably one of the Top 10 classics of the genre that are must reads if you're into it. Off the top of my head: The Forever War, Starshop Troopers, 2001, Do Androids Dream, Do Androids Dream, Left Hand of Darkness, Enders Game, Childhood's End all fall into the same "SciFi Must Reads" :)

    OK, back on topic:


    I'm actually building something in the garage that relates to the topic, I'll let everyone know how it goes (or not...) :lol:
     
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    i heard you can only go back in time and not into the future (not like living one day) as in going ahead of time 1 day or a year,etc
    so if you wanna go see the dinosaurs...sucks to be you
     
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    Well a "doughnut" shape could be created so that time and space travel in a loop. We would only be able to go back to the time it was created though.
     
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    Mmmm... Doughnut space time....
     
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    well time can only go forward...as far as i know..but then again i am not interested in time travel, and doubt it is possible :( sorry guys
     
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    if you travel in the future then how are you going to be in the present too

    oh wait


    now im confused :/
     
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    mmm space doughnuts
     
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    Funny you should say that, because I speculate that with infinite time, the universe once was and will be again going through a loop. The big bang theory works into this, with the big crunch and then a new galaxy. No matter how many times it does that, with an infinite amount of time, it's bound to come back to this. In essence, we've run through this exact same course and we will again. I think it works even if you take out the big bang theory - there's only a finite amount we could do, a finite amount of variation, working within the laws of physics, that could ever happen, and then we repeat ourselves. I may not have explained that very well, it's late.

    Of course, I haven't ruled out the possibilty that there's a minute chance that time may not exist at all - and since the laws of physics are based upon time's flow, it means that a universe without time exist without physics. It's highly unlikely, but this very moment could just well be the universe itself - since everything we remember is based upon memory, if in a (truely) random universe without time, it's possible that time doesn't exist at all - we just are in this very moment - trapped randomly clinging to the thought that the next moment will arrive. Like I said it's late.

    Then there's the humanist theory. Based on the theory that our perceptions not only seeing reality, but also changing it, it would be possible just to convince yourself that the laws of physics don't apply. Since the laws of physics would not apply in that case, you could literally do anything. In essence, you could shape reality as you see fit. To test this theory, I need you all to concentrate VERY hard and convince yourself that reality is dependent on how you look at it, and therefore change it. Oh, and whilst you're doing that, could you post the lottery numbers up for last saturday's Lottery draw? Ta.

    Actually, I remember watching a film with Christopher Reeve in it about this exact method of timetravelling. Things kind of fell apart when he was reminded that he was from the future.

    Strictly speaking, if you can create a large enough gravity field, based on two points in time/space, I think you might be able to create time-travel. Well, so long as your particles don't get ripped apart in the process.

    Actually, that makes me wonder. In a black hole, there's a major gravity field. Perhaps the reason for information to go nowhere is because the forces between the most fundamental particles themselves stop working (Quarks are what Protons/electrons etc are made of, not sure about anything smaller). Since the forces would stop working, the spaces in between those particles could be filled. Imagine at the centre - material so dense, there's literally no way for the sub-sub-sub particles to move. There would be no energy, just particles. Once the universe would be sucked completely into one singularity, where would time and space be? It would collapse, possibly end up self-converting some of the particles into energy, and you'd have the big bang again.

    Once again, it's late...
     
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    I should get rep for both reading and attempting to comprehend that.

    First, it's 3am there, go to bed.

    Second, that "ultra-dense" material is dark matter.

    Third, Where is Corwall in the UK.

    Fourth, things can actually go faster than the speed of light. Say there's a point A and point B. Heisenberg's theory of uncertainty says that there is a minute chance that a particle can go from A to B faster than light. Thus, black holes aren't quite black. (Also event horizons...)

    Fifth, If you want to laugh at someone. Say there's a gun pointed at a box with a kitty in it. The second you touch the box, the gun has a 50% chance of going off. Obviously if you open the box, the cat is either dead or alive, but what is it before you open it?

    Answer:
    Half dead!
     

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