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What Encryption standard you use on your Home network?

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  1. Singhson

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    For those of you who have internet, which is obviously everyone reading this unless your not @ home, have probably got wireless too.
    I was Wondering what Encryption standard do you use on your home network from computer to Wii, or bigger ones.

    Theres:

    > WEP - very popular, but easy to hack

    > WPA - much securer

    > WPA2 - the most securest, but not available on many devices

    > TKIP - I've never heard of this one

    > PEAP - Never heard of this one either

    Which one do you use to securely share your internet connection with your Wii?
    I use WPA, I was told it's much securer than WEP, but compensates by sacrificing Internet speed.

    Edit: i forgot, do some of you even know about this stuff, "wiichat" members will sort you out, feel free to ask about Network security here too!
     
  2. Evi1d33d

    Evi1d33d CheapAssGamer

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    WPA, my router doesn't support anything better. My primary reason to move from WEP to WPA is because I'm tired of typing the 16 letter Hex keys.
     
  3. uk_louis_1986

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    WPA2 its good but not compatible with ds
     
  4. sremick

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    Err, "you're". http://vtbsd.net/english/

    One that doesn't randomly capitalize words, apparently. ;)

    Missing an apostrophe there, buddy. :frown2:

    "most securest"???? Geesh... :frown2:

    It's a security protocol that WPA can use. AES is better though.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_Extensible_Authentication_Protocol

    WPA2, of course. I do more on my network than play my Wii, and WEP is too easy to break into.
     
  5. nxcmp

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    WEP 128bit + Mac Address filtering, IP filtering, no DHCP, dynamic WEP key rotation
     
  6. Guster

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    TKIP and PEAP aren't other Encryption standards.

    WEP is basically a WEP encrpytion.

    When you set up a WPA or WPA2 connection, you are able to choose between two different encryption methods TKIP or AES. Some routers, allow you to set up a TKIP AND AES connection that way you can connect via either method.

    My campus usues PEAP. It's not a connection type, you can use it along with WPA or WPA2. It's method to authenticate your users, basically by back checking security certificates against those stored at server databases, and may also require you to put in a certain username and password. I don't see it useful nor pratical at a home.

    Of course all of this could be totally wrong, so correct me if anyone knows better.
     
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    i live in a very rural area... no encryption for me!
     
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    Sremick, I understand that messages in poor English can be annoying, but Singhson actually types pretty well by the standards of the intarwebz. You can clearly understand what he's saying, so why bother taking apart all the spelling and grammar errors in his post? :S Anyway, as someone with an uncapitalised username, who feels the need to use four question marks at a time, I don't think you're in a position to criticize other people's language skills.

    Back on topic, I use WPA encryption, which is annoying since it means I have to sit near the PC with a dongle plugged in whenever I want to play my DS online :\ But at least the Wii can connect using WPA.
     
  9. sremick

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    Heh, how rural? Better hope none of your neighbors have an empty Pringles can...
     
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    I use "WPA2 - the most securest, but not available on many devices"

    ~X
     
  11. adrianm

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    I use WPA2. Though most of my neighbours are now retired and would unlikely piggyback on my connection, it's always better to be safe than sorry. Plus new, younger couples move in all the time. I know when I go to visit my father, I just bring my laptop and hop on one of 3 unsecured wireless connections with decent signal strength, rather than be confined to his computer in the basement.
     
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    very rural... :yesnod: old farmers... my router shows history of all past and expired MAC address connections and my dad and i always views that list while we are in the router for another reason.
     
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    Not so rural you can't get broadband, though? Nice. Usually the phone companies in areas like that are like, "Er, dee ess what...?" Unless you were feeling rich and sprung for satellite... I set that up for a client up on a mountain who can't get cable or DSL (and runs their house off solar panels).
     
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    it is nice... the broadband is so new here so many are still like "WHY WOoD Iee PAYEE MORE DEN MY $10 FOR INTERNET?!? Dial-LUp werKs good enuff fuh mee."

    then they stand around in awe when they visit our house. :lol:
     
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    "Ma! Ma! Take a gander at this video Cletus sent me on our free wireless internet..."

    [edit for on topic contribution]

    WPA2 / AES

    (Wired where convenient)
     
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    AES? wow, DT... you live metro, though :lol:

    BTW, my dad is a wireless network engineer and project manages monsterous wireless networks in hospitals like NYC and Dallas... i get to travel with him often.
     
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    i have MAC address filtering and my SSID is not broadcast (so it will not show up when people search for an access point). i also have it in the basement of my house. reaches my entire house and about 5 feet on the outside (i tested with my laptop lol)
     
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    Since we have some decently-technical people on this thread, I felt I should mention a few things:

    - MAC address filtering is not a panacea. Basic sniffing software can pick up the MAC addresses of devices that are successfully associating with the AP, and then the person can change their own MAC address to match.

    - non-broadcasting SIDs are not a panacea. It's even easier to figure out the SID of a non-broadcasting AP than it is to clone the MAC address.

    - There is still value in using MAC-address filtering and not broadcasting your SID, as it at least raises the skill-level bar for what it'd take for someone to freeload off your internet connection. But don't be lulled into a false sense of security. It's the difference between just leaning your bike against a tree and using a chain. The 12yo won't steal it, but plenty of people have bolt cutters.

    - The "reach" doesn't just depend on the power and gain of the AP, but the power and gain of the client antenna as well. While one laptop might only work up to 5' outside a building, another could be made to work 50 yards outside the building. For under $200 you can get wireless NICs that have over 10X more transmit power, and the options for higher-gain antennas are limitless.
     
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    "sremick", :rolleyes: , thanks for the lecture, does anyone even listen to you? Because i didn't, so you just wasted all of that typing. I hope i never get so lame that i have to give random people on the net English lectures on game forums.

    Thanks for that Neepo, you're a safe Geeza!

    Now back on topic, Mitch2025, what brand of router have you got? Also are you talking about just internet use or/and file transferring on your network too?My internet connections pretty poor, I'm thinking of getting one of those re transmitters, because on my Belkin one i can't ad on a bigger antenna.
    1st I'm gonna try upgrading my Net connection and see ow that goes 1st, also changing the frequency, because we've got a wireless phone right next to where it's having trouble receiving the signal.
     
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    i have a netgear router. really the only file transfering is when i stream video from my desktop PC to my laptop to watch before going to bed. if i want to xfer large files i just use my external HDD that has 30 gig apple partition (i forget what the name of the filesystem is. its like NFS or something (not NTFS because macs cant write to NTFS)
     

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