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What is it about Resident Evil that damages Wiis?

Discussion in 'Nintendo Wii Hardware' started by sremick, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. sremick

    sremick Got lifeboat?

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    So after months of using my Wii with no problems, I popped in one of the several games I got for xmas: Resident Evil 4. And what happens? Suddenly I'm plagued with the "green dots" issue, and now it's present in other games too (I'm seeing it in Cars too, and I wasn't before). So I do a search on the internet to learn more about this problem (which I had heard about), and lo and behold: the majority of people seem to get it after playing RE4. So what the heck is going on? What is it about this game that damages the Wii, and why hasn't there been a recall yet to solve this problem if it's so-clearly related to RE4?

    Not pleased about having to send my Wii in for repair, and very concerned about losing my save games.
     
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    cassieboo WiiChat Member

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    i haven't heard anything like this. maybe it's just a coincidence. but i have no idea.

    so you don't lose your save games and what not i'd go buy an sd card til all this is resolved. sorry.
     
  3. sremick

    sremick Got lifeboat?

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    Apparently it's very common.

    Except that apparently some games won't let you transfer their saved games to an SD card, although I haven't been able to get a definitive list of what games.
     
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    [DT] Gearhead Surf Coder

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    That is the oddest thing I've ever heard of - specifically a game causing some permanent condition (that's then present in OTHER games)!

    I guess it could be from two potential sources:

    1) Code based - that is, some kind of low level addressing that somehow pokes values into some non-volatile memory register. That seems incredibly unlikely, but I suppose possible.

    2) Some kind of media based issue - i.e., the RE discs are warped/thicker/distorted and are causing some kind of physical damage to the laser sub-system (either shifting the focal length enough or +possibly+ striking the lens itself).

    Yeah, the inconsistency with Nintendo restoring your saved games would bother me too. It was my understanding you could transfer everything to an SD card (and then back when it returns from repair), but I haven't really researched that in detail.
     
  5. sremick

    sremick Got lifeboat?

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    In case it wasn't obvious, follow the linked text "very common" in my previous post for a Google search which shows what I'm talking about. It occurred to me that Wiichat doesn't make linked text very obvious at all, just underlining it... and some people underline text for other reasons.
     
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    Dorkfish I'm Good at Games

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    Ive never heard of that, but i dont have RE4 for teh wii. Email nintendo and ask about it is what i would do.
     
  7. stumac1985

    stumac1985 You lost the game!

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    look at the youtube link on the google search. nintendo replaced his for free, the but the dots look like the Harry Potter logo on his... weird
     
  8. iOwnage

    iOwnage Confiscation of the Mind

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    The green/red dots are supposedly an overheated GPU problem.
     
  9. Wiimoto

    Wiimoto Sonic + Brawl = Ownage

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    Maybe its some interference problem... what kinda TV do you play your wii on?
     
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    sremick Got lifeboat?

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    I've heard lots of theories about it being an over-heated GPU, but none of that explains the high-rate of people who don't have any problems until running Resident Evil 4. I'm seeing it now in Tomb Raider, Cars, and Harry Potter, when I wasn't seeing it in any of those prior to running RE4. I never saw it at all until running RE4, which is identical to many other peoples' experiences.

    I don't claim to understand what is going on or how it can possibly happen (as a technical geek I'm as confused as the rest of you) but all I can say is that the pattern is disturbing and suggests that something is out of whack here.
     
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    I don't know a great deal about hardware, but could it be that RE4 works the Wii's GPU harder than other games for some reason, and this can cause it to overheat and suffer permanent damage...?
     
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    RE4 runs to powerfully for the Wii, therefore overheating it, and causing permanent damage.
     
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    Xaegoth WiiChat Member

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    Wow, hadn't actually heard of this.

    Think I will cross Resident Evil off my to buy list (I have never been much in to the "such and such game broke my console" claims, but there looks to be something behind this one).

    Thanks for the heads up and sorry you had to go through it.
     
  14. Matt's_A_Bluebird

    Matt's_A_Bluebird Proud Owner Of A Wii

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    I'm hoping the PAL version is okay because I got it for Christmas too! Havn't played it much yet though because I also got Scarface which I want to complete quickly.
     
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    kronau Nice And Simple

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    i have it and i have to porblems with it it might be just ur wii
     
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    It's not just my Wii, it's lots of peoples' Wiis. Check the Google link included earlier.
     
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    Phew....thankful RE4 didn't cause problems on ours.
     
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    After reading several [dozen] of the posts in the provided link (you're right, I thought that was underlined for emphasis :) ), I'm semi-convinced that it's a completely *independent* hardware related issue.

    I believe it just happens to be more visible in RE4 - due to the visual effects and the art/game design (lots of complex screens you slowly move through). Once you're aware of the issue, you become super sensitive to it (and see it in games where you didn't notice it before).

    At least that's my theory, and I'm sticking to it :D
     
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    I'm going to have to disagree. I had been reading about the green dots issue long before I ever experienced it. I had seen the screenshots and the videos and knew what it looked like. For many months I have been very conscientious of my display making sure I didn't see it (and I have a 36" TV which makes it very easy to see once it starts). I even considered getting one of those USB add-on fans in order to hopefully prevent it. When I first saw it in RE4, although it was minor I immediately noticed it and recognized it. I then noticed it in my other games when I hadn't before.

    So for me, the first run of RE4 was a clear and definitive transition from not having the problem to having it, and it appears I'm not alone.
     
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    It seemed *slightly* more plausible than a specific game affecting the hardware (to the point of causing a permanent problem), but as I posted previously, we could probably come up with all sorts of potential answers (for RE4 damaging the Wii). Someone even mentioned GPU issues (directly resulting from RE4's code) - not sure how feasible that is, but it does at least equate the GAME to the ISSUE.

    We definitely do NOT have any sort of video problem (at least it's not visible in Zelda, Paper Mario or SMG) - we also have a copy of RE4 we've only booted once to check out for ~15 minutes. I'm going to make a mental note of this, and if we get the RE4 issue (I'm sure we'll play for pretty extended periods once we "officially" start it), I'll track this thread back down!!

    Good luck with the return/repair if you do that route.
     

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