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What is this crazy MoH hype?

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  1. weedude

    weedude WiiChat Member

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    There are SOOO many posts on this topic every day. Did a search on "medal of honor" just now and hundreds of hits came up. 16 hits just from today. If this release fails to live up to the ecpectations I think the world will go under:ciappa:

    Dont get me wrong as I am myself a big MoH fan specially from the PC franchise and do look forward to the release big time.

    So guys -
    Are there too may topics/threads on the upcomming moh release?
     
  2. Byuakuya

    Byuakuya Bleach & Heroes fan.

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    I think everyone is just very excited about the concept of 32 players online at once, without the use of friend codes. :lol:
     
  3. cyberzomby

    cyberzomby OH NOES! A PICTURE

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    yup! And the complete customisation of the control scheme!!!

    And did someone mention 32 players online in 3 different modes in 6 great maps!

    Its coming out in 3 weeks :D:D:D:D
     
  4. ....wiiiiiii.....

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    yeh this game will rock, but some people are comparing it to galaxy, and thats crazy :p...
    just look at the reviews when this game comes out compared to galaxy and you will see..
    but i guees, is a step in the right direction for the wii.. an FPS with awesome controls (finally) and 32 player online (XD) one thing i think (i HOPE not) that this game will lack though is gameplay, MAYBE ime wrong though, and i will still def play/buy this game for sure.
     
  5. cyberzomby

    cyberzomby OH NOES! A PICTURE

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    What do you mean with gameplay?

    Its an arcade like fps. How much gameplay besides running and gunning do you want ;)
     
  6. ally_uk

    ally_uk WiiChat Member

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    Personally Medal of Honour games tend to suck ass on consoles so why would this be any different?
     
  7. cyberzomby

    cyberzomby OH NOES! A PICTURE

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    Because mainly they suck for the controls and lack of multi-player feature ( when they do its only player versus player without bots )

    Now you can finetune the sensitivity and deadzone of your controller. So the controls kick-ass. Some reviewers say even better than metroid prime

    And theres a huge online feature! So whats not to love?
     
  8. ....wiiiiiii.....

    ....wiiiiiii..... WiiChat Member

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    Artificial intelligence, which apparently is not too good. there is no vehicles, that would be a cool attribute and make the online funner. only 6 maps (even though they are meant to be big i think it might get boring).
    but HEY ime being a bit negative this game will STILL rock. and i know from some of the trailers that it cant be a crappy game, it looks way too fun.
     
  9. cyberzomby

    cyberzomby OH NOES! A PICTURE

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    Yea I can understand why you think that though.

    Altough I dont consider that gameplay. So thats why you got me confused :p

    Im a bit disapointed with the 6 maps as well :( I hope they are big enough to stay fun :D:D
     
  10. vashivihan

    vashivihan Let There Be Rock

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    November 2, 2007 - It should be no surprise by now that we're pretty big fans of Medal of Honor Heroes 2 here at IGN. Since our first time going hands-on with the game months ago we went from having cautiously optimistic hopes for the game to genuinely enjoying our premiere experience, largely do to the sheer amount of customization that went into the Wii controls. Everything from cursor speed to dead zone, motion controls and actual camera pan speed can be changed on the fly for either on or offline play, as Medal of Honor Heroes 2 has easily the most customizable - and therefore intuitive - control for any Wii FPS thus far, Prime included.

    Rather than bringing the same "Oh wow, apparently Call of Duty was a success!" gameplay to the table - as seen in other Medal of Honor games - Heroes takes the series in different direction, actually bringing it back to its 007-like roots. If you remember, Medal of Honor started on PSX, where the idea of a squad vs. squad gameplay had yet to really flourish. What you got instead was a more arcade-like, "man vs. the world" experience as you took control of an OSS agent who was thrown behind enemy lines and forced to make the most of it. Heroes 2 isn't entirely squad-based, but it isn't totally solo either, as you once again take control of an OSS agent, but will constantly move between larger firefights and intimate, almost stealth-based scenarios.

    ince we've had a chance to go hands-on with the game so many times before this, we'll focus on the more specific ups and downs of the game, rather than regurgitating what we've already told you. If you're looking for more on the basics, just check out our previous coverage thus far.

    Heroes got its start as a PSP game, and thus there will of course be a bit of a different feeling throughout the experience overall. Yes, the game looks better, plays far better, and delivers enough to justify it as a console experience. Wii is, after all, the primary SKU this time around. You'll notice differences though in the game's optimization that not only made it possible to run on PSP originally, but also keeps the Wii version locked at a solid 60 frames per second. Battles are generally smaller, even when dealing with squad vs. squad, as fights tend to sit at the four-on-four or five-on-five numbers, rather than some of the more blown out console efforts you'll be used to seeing on other systems, or other franchises.

    Again, this is far from a downside, as the game feels like a true change of pace from every other war game out there; it's simply worth mentioning. Levels are generally smaller than even Call of Duty on Wii, but with the difficulty ramping up in a big way (easy is still pretty challenging at times, too) it'll be more about conquering the levels in a more tactical way than simply running and shooting blindly. This is where the Wii-motes precision comes into play so well, as the game feels stronger than any other FPS on the system, so targeting enemies and nailing head shots is a natural and fun experience. Other things, such as disappearing corpses, also lend themselves to a faster frame-rate and stronger optimization on Wii, helping it lock in a great overall feel throughout the game.

    The main focus for us this time around, however, was the multiplayer mode, which we were finally able to dive into just yesterday afternoon. MOH Heroes 2 boasts a 32 player online mode, and while some may find that hard to believe we're definitely believers. Our experience with it yesterday wasn't quite that epic, instead sitting at about six on six most of the time, but it's easy to see how the game can keep its frame-rate and feel smooth the entire time.
    For starters, levels are pretty large in size, often making use of a few key hubs, rather than one huge open area like Halo or the like. In "Chapel" for example, there's a church section with pews and a perch, an open area for the courtyard, a small (but longer) building off to the far East side which makes for great cover when sprinting from the chapel out into the yard, a sniper nest in a smaller building West of the chapel, and a huge graveyard section (often used for spawning) outlining two sides of the level. We had a chance to play both deathmatch and team deathmatch in this section, and we had a blast, as you always had a few people facing off in the yard, a number of smarter players taking up the sniper perch or long hallways, and people constantly filtering in from the chapel and graveyard spawns. I personally made a habit of patrolling the long halls and sniper next, using my shotgun to wipe out campers in each respective position.

    As for the general flow of multiplayer, the game is faster and far more brutal. The quick 180 degree turn is still included, as is a new quick-melee that hurts less, but can be done with a button press rather than motion, so you don't end up screwing over your IR aim to do it. There's also sprint in multiplayer, which needs to refill after being used for about five seconds, but you can actually interrupt the refill and drain it again as soon as the sprint ends, letting you find quick cover if you finish running and find yourself still in a pinch. As a bit of an odd one, we had instances where we actually ran through other people, causing them to go transparent for a moment.

    This is undoubtedly one of those instances where frame-rate was held by cutting a corner or two, but it's really more of an observance than it is a flaw, as it hardly ever comes up. Players also seem to die within a decent length of time from the beginning of a firefight, oftentimes hitting the ground while something like the MP40 still has a good 12 rounds in it. As a final quick note about deathmatch specifically, you can select which alliance you take (as well as the costume for your character), but are not locked by what weapons you can use. In team deathmatch you have access to either axis or ally weaponry based on which side you play for. In free-for-all, you can grab any weapon on any side, and that includes sniper rifles and bazookas as well.

    We also had a chance to try out the capture the flag mode, which was also pretty entertaining. We were playing within the main sewer level, basically a symmetrical face-off map, and had to grab the opposing team's flag and bring it back to our own. If a player drops the flag or is killed, the flag returns after a few moments of hitting the ground. As with any mode, players can use quick commands in place of voice control. The only downside, however, is the position and execution of the scripted VO. In order to do it, players need to hit the 1 button on the controller, and then use the d-pad to scroll through the six available voice options one by one. Once a line is selected, pressing A will unlock your screen and say the command. The voice commands are as simple as "Yes, No, I Need Help, Enemy Spotted, Attack, and Retreat" but most of the time you'll be moving too fast to have time to use it. Take "I need help", for example: If you really do, you don't have time to press 1, and then hit A. It's the first one on the list, but that already freezes your character, allowing whatever threat you "need help" to avoid to promptly decimate you. If there was a way to put the commands in a more prominent spot, or maybe include a scroll wheel so you didn't need to go through them one-by-one they'd be much more helpful. Here's hoping next year's doesn't need it due to an inclusion of voice chat.



    HOPE THIS HELPS
     
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    Thank you for that :) I did read it another time. And what I mean with the maps is just that Im curious and want to experience them myself to see if I think they are good enough ;)
     
  12. Smithy

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    6? You know that's not alot, right?
     
  13. vashivihan

    vashivihan Let There Be Rock

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    YEAH BUT THEY ARE HUGE MAPS.
     
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    zapasant Where is your god now?

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    alot of people are ecxited about the gameplay and obiously the online mode
     
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    Honestly, I couldn't care less about the size, 6 maps is nothing.
     
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    vashivihan Let There Be Rock

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    it may be but its a right step in online experience for nintendo
     
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    Wiinter Audentes fortuna iuvat

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    6 good maps is better than 20 bad ones. We'll just have to wait and see how well they designed them.

    In the end, most players pick two or three favorites and just stick with them. I played Halo 1 with friends for years, and it was pretty much always the same 3 maps.

    If it were capable of downloading later maps designed by the community or the dev, that'd be great, but Nintendo's stubborn insistence on no hard drive scares developers from making the investment. You want to put your resources where you know they'll pay dividends, and you don't want to have to fight a console maker to get your return.

    EA Canada Team Fusion is the little engine that could. They jumped up from the portable platforms and designed a shooter better than any major 3rd party, and even taught Nintendo a thing or two. Being the size they are, they had to make choices, and so they couldn't do everything. But what they did, they appear to have done well.

    People are excited because despite the potential on the Wii for FPS, it has been executed poorly time after time, and the genre has even been abandoned by some teams. Now it's been done right. All that time complaining and someone finally listened.
     
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    bgreen82 Mad Wii Gamer

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    alright, im gonna sound like a noob here, but what is deadzone?
     
  19. LeWaffles

    LeWaffles CUSTOM

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    well i think you can find a lot of topics because there aren't any sub forums for MOH, so threads get lost in the bigger wii gaming area. But yeah the game will be awesome.
     
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    Deadzone is when you aim, the screen does not rotate. Therefore, PC gamers (like myself) normally change it to a high sensitivity for precise aiming and quick fast turns. Many console games are sluggish compared to a fast mouse.(not all just many people who play pc find console slower)
    As MOHH2 I really hope that if it sells well other companies will follow suit with full online modes such as (COD4 please for all that is good) I don't care as long as graphic look like the old Xbox. Maybe army of two. Idk, i think if this title breaks 1mil then other companies will have to consider making full online expierences.
     

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