i havent and im sure a lot of people (and none of my friends) have filled up their hd
im sorry, your trying to flame the 360 when the wii has a whopping 512mb with no exernal harddrive support and they were to cheap to put in a dvd player? and like how the wii is offering outdated graphics
and its still not milking, because you dont NEED the HDMI, and you have a total choice on if you want it or not
milking would be like a video game comes out without an ending, and they want you to buy offline the rest of the game, not giving you a finish product

I'm not flaming the 360. I'm flaming M$. The need for HDMI is subjective. Unforutnately for those of us that bought the 360 since the release, we haven't had a choice to have HDMI because M$ so graciously made the decision for us.

ps3 is milking, they claim its true HD but it doesn't come with the HDMI cable.

What do Gold members get that Silver members don't? Do Gold members pay for anything that they download? Or do they just have access to more things and still have to use about the same amount of Microsoft Points on Live?

Okay I'm really interested and serious about getting a 360. But as of now I'm still undecided about whether to get the Elite or get a Premium pack. I've found some good deals on Premiums at eBay but I also like the look of the Elite. Plus it has all that space, the upgrades, and other features. Is there anywhere that lists all the specific details/specs/upgrades for the Elite? Also do we know that Microsoft won't bring out another new model within a year? Thats really what I'm most afraid of...

good question
i say get premimum
gold get to play online and get access to content such as demos, themes, and videos

yah they still need to use m$ points
well besides the color (which would be the only reason id buy it, and maybe hdmi)
if you dont have a hdtv, and your not planning to spend big bucks downloading tons of content to make use of the 120gb, you wont fill it up and wont need it
i have around 10 arcade titles + all my saves and demos, and videos and what nots and patches..and i've only used 3gb..
i only get the videos that are free, in the future i do plan on renting some movies, but they are only for rent and you delete them off your harddrive once they expire
so unless your a huge entertainment junkie, you dont need 120gb, or you have the extra 80 and want to buy it for the black
i am planning to trade in 1 of my contorllers and buy a black one

I am getting the core pretty soon don't need the online xbox live i got a PC for that I'll get the wii in the fall getting ovbilion and probably fear with it memory card 2

sovieto nice post! how much are these in canada? and dosnt 360 scratch discs (or was that xbox)

no clue about that, i dont plan on dealing with prcies outside of the US, you can look them up though easily from the website of a large retailer =P
360 will scratch your disc if you are running it and move it from a horizontal to vertical or vice versa posistion, which you have to be an idiot to do without thinking of any problems it would cause

you won't believe the people sign up on the 360 forum to say help me my disc is screwed up and now it won't play all I did was move the console. Isn't there a sticker on the 360 to say don't move when on? or Help I got the red ring of death so it makes the 360 look more unstable than it truly is

Some questions:

I've never owned an Xbox and don't know much about the hard drive. What exactly is its purpose and what gets stored on it. Is the 20gb (13gb) enough if I'm just planning on playing games? Should I get the 120gb because I'll regret not having it when I start running out of space?

What else can the space be used for? Is it just downloadable stuff you pay for, is there anything you download that is free?

Are there modchips for the 360? Can you still play on Live if you mod?

Why should I get a 360 over a PS3? Its hard to justify the $50 for games for me, but $60 is gonna be even harder. (I'm mostly leaning towards a 360 because of the cost)

I'm thinking about getting a 360, Too Human looks amazing, and I will be very upset when GTA IV comes out and I can't play it. Not too many wii titles excite me lately, and those that do aren't gonna be around for a while.

I never really got into learning much about the 360, but one of my friends mentioned playing his own music during games. Instead of having cds burned to the xbox though, could I transport them via flashdrive or any other means. Also, does it only apply to certain games, or can I listen to my jams during any game, if not, how bout Gears of War? Thanks in advance

yah you can during any game
and im not entirely sure but im pretty sure you can use a flash device, but thats something not many people bring up..

Yeah its no biggy, its just that once I usually get cds I burn them to my laptop then pass the cds on to others (oops, is that sharing? haha), or I download and my friend told me something about not being able to use "pirated" songs with MS stuff nowadays.
Also I was reading from the xbox site that you can connect an mp3 player and play with that, but it didnt specify whether or not it could be used during gameplay.

get the elite its the best and you get brag!

Wow, thanks for the help some useful information in here
I'm thinking of getting the core edition because I don't have a wireless connection or anything like that.. but do I still have anything on the x360 to store saved files or anything like that or would I have to buy memory cards?