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Discussion in 'Nintendo Wii Chat' started by wezeles, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. wezeles

    wezeles Guru of everything Ninty

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    Edit= I know I spelled Storage wrong in the title.. ha ha

    I know we all heard about pay to play, but I didn't notice anything on storage space and thats what I was intrested in here.

    Stumbled across this looking for more info on pay to play "there isn't any by the way and there is no way to tell what the pay to play feature will entail ,except it seems to be a premium service not a replacement for free service based on all the interviews I have personally read" Its just getting interpreted as a new pay for online service. Persoanlly I think it will be for extra stuff like DLC and online chat service like they talk about here, maybe why its on a game to game basis and not going to be on every wifi game Nintendo offers from now on.
    If it is a pay per online for each game I dont see how they could pull it off unless its on some huge hit titles. Paying for online service has never done as well as an overall online servie.

    Anyway for this I will only include the Wii-ware/storage info and not the entire article. The link is provided at the end.

    Link to entire article http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=17584

    Also Good call DT
    I always thought we wouldn't need a harddrive aswell and at most they would access the SD slot, or use just a USB flash drive if extra memory is needed. We will have to see how this new compression works.
     
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    Dorkfish I'm Good at Games

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    CantGetAWii WiiChat Member

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    Well thats an interesting way of going about it.
    I didn't see it going down like that.
     
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    Extra Life Mushroom Just That Great

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    I wonder what kind of compression software they're going to use? and also what's the file size of these "zipped" games going to be? considering they are tailored for the wii's interface and not a ROM from prior gaming generations like all the VC titles.

    It seems to me that ninty has missed a few steps in the natural progression of gaming technology (online voice chat,gimmick-free online gaming (friend codes), and now hard drive storage) and it has chosen to either bypass these things entirely or work around them, using a cheaper more economic route to attain similar results.

    I just fee like they're taking the easy way out in a lot of these situations. They COULD afford the technology and hardware for voice support but choose not to citing safety concerns. They could also market mass storage devices via flash drives (which by today's standards are getting cheaper and cheaper) which would be cheaper than a full fledged external hard drive. But there again they choose not to.
    The least they could have done was given us a firmware update allowing the console to support other companies storage devices. That at least would yield and increase in the sales of wii ware or VC titles.
     
  5. wezeles

    wezeles Guru of everything Ninty

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    It's not that they can't afford the newer tech, it's that there new audience "casual gamers" are not going to spend the extra cash for what they see as "add ons" so they are in no rush to support technology that if they are lucky 10% of the owners will buy.

    But they probably will support some kind of storage in the future because even with compressed space they are limited on how much they have 512mb of compressed space still isn't going to let you download every VC/wii-ware game or download every song for Rock-Band. I'm sure they have something in the works for the crazy downloader that wants nothing more than to stock pile the wii full of everything they can.
     
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  6. Dav_4550

    Dav_4550 WiiChat Member

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    yeah, give me some wii ware...
    Star Soldier R, that is what I am pumped about, shmups FTW

    I am very concerned about the storage as a VC guy, I have 15 or 16 games for it right now, including Lords of Thunder and that took over 200 blocks I believe...but it was totally worth it
     
  7. sagema

    sagema 3D Artist

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    I asked my friend about the 4gb extra space hidden on the Wii. According to him, since he's more technical than me, it's probably going to be used for Wiiware. The SNES has a port for a CD player (Look up how the PS1 was made). The N64 has an expansion pack, which was used. The GC has an attachment for a modem and GBA, which was also used.
     
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    There's 4gb hidden in the Wii? oO
    If so then that could work : )
    My hopes of MMORPG to Wii has already crumbled so 4gb sounds fair, or let us save it to SD someway without having to move it back and forth.
     
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    I thought that the 4gb was already used by system services and for developers to use for loading content from discs to reduce loading times.
    At least that's what I read in speculation on another thread and it seems reasonable. It doesn't seem like Nintendo would want to just have 4Gb sitting around doing nothing when they could be making people happy, but hey, sometimes they do some weird stuff that from a consumer standpoint might not always make sense.
     
  10. Pantalaimn

    Pantalaimn Dæmon

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    Where in the tech specs for wii does it mention 4GB of space? PandaKun??
     
  11. Budo

    Budo Raging Clue

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    Ok, NOW it's hilarious... :lol:

    They're doing almost everything to avoid the simplest, most logical, and cost effective (time is money) method for storage - an external hard-drive. Storing manuals online? Compression on the games? OK I guess, but we're still going to need space when the game is expanded, or will they compress/decompress on the fly? How slow is that going to be? Will we have to endure 5-minute "compression" times in order to play a simple Wiiware game?

    I really don't get it.
     
  12. Zarogan

    Zarogan Official Metroid Breeder

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    Yeah, I can't find the logic behind that... You can compress all you want, but eventually you'll have to decompress it, and when that happens we will need more space lol
     

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