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can you acess the wii , though the network?

Discussion in 'Nintendo Wii Online' started by Hackspace, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. Hackspace

    Hackspace WiiChat Member

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    I haven't tried this yet but has anybody tried to access the wii the the network on a windows pc? either like map it as a network drive or just access it in any way I know you can see it and ping it. Just seeing if has tried it and what there results were.
     
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    From my scans I haven't found any open ports on the Wii. Granted, I've only scanned the common ranges so far. Since nothing is open there won't be any way to access it. However, this is something they could change with a firmware update, so we'll see.

    Edit: Well, I apparently overlooked the fact that the FTP port is open. So, I'll explore that and see what can be done with it.
     
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  3. Hackspace

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    did you try it while having the shop channel open? it has to have an open port when the web browser channel is out. there is no way it has that good of a firewall.
     
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    Well, that's not exactly how it works. It can access the internet without opening a port for incoming connections.
     
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    yeah i know, but still I bet it will open up alot more, but theyll probably fix those holes later on any ways.
     
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    Have you tried using a tool like Ethereal to monitor the traffic going through your router while a Wii network connection is in progress?
     
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    I've heard of a few people doing it, but I don't know the results.

    I'm running WPA at the moment, so I can't see anything but broadcast packets to/from the Wii. Maybe tomorrow I'll be motivated enough to step back to WEP so I can monitor it.
     
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    Any luck with this? Does it let you log in anonymous?
     
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    You can't ftp to the wii.
     
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    My guess is it's not an ftp server, whatever it is just happens to be running on port 21. It doesn't return any server banner, and every input I give it just gets me disconnected.
     
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    Why would it have an ftp server set up on it? If anything you would FTP from the wii.
     
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    I'm sure I don't know. But it seems strange that they would put something other than FTP on port 21.

    Anyway... stuckshut, you say any input from you closes the connection. Does it close after a single character or does it wait until you send a carriage return?
     
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    exactly
     
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    Nothing else would be using port 21.

    And finding the ftp port open on a machine doesn't mean it is running an ftp server.

    And it remote closes you. Meaning there is no ftp server, thus nothing to connect to.
     
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    wele You can call me Wii-Lee!

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    the wii shows up on my router page with an IP address but doesn't have a name
     
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    ........yea
     
  17. wele

    wele You can call me Wii-Lee!

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    through the ip i didn't physically 'access' the wii, but was able to get access to it's information...

    ie: mac address and a couple of other things o_O
     
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    Yes, we know that the wii when connected to the router will show up in the dhcp table/connected devices list. This really has nothing to do with what we are talking about though.

    Someone asked if you could access the wii over the network from a PC.
     
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    Certainly port 21 being open doesn't indicate that the host /must/ be running an ftp server.

    If it goes through the handshake and opens a TCP connection, one would imagine that /something/ is listening. Especially if the connection remains open until receiving input.

    Who's to say it's not a listener for some proprietary protocol?

    I don't presently have a way to investigate this more deeply, so I'm just going from what stuckshut had to say.
     
  20. MorningStar

    MorningStar I like my Wii Wii

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    thing about the port 21 being open is probably something internal is using it locally or something to block a possible exploit of it being used as a FTP like what happened on the original Xbox.....

    NOTE: LINUX MAY BE BEST BET TO DO ANYTHING NETWORK WISE WITH WII i say this cuz well its more advanced and more possibilities with the tools and cmds Linux has
     

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