Zelda Wind Waker problem

[redhawk]

I'm having trouble trying to double my magic meter. I know it is quadrant G-4 and I even cheated by going to some walkthroughs, but I still can't seem to find the Octo. I need a detailed explanation because all I have seen on the net is to go to the flock of seagulls and then Octo will appear. Well I have done this a hundred times and I haven't seen jack.

Are they talking about the seagulls that are sitting on that round wooden deck or the seagulls that appear overhead.

 

[redhawk]

Nevermind, I finally found it. I love these Zelda games, but for some reason I always get stuck in certain parts.

 

[bonodo]

Nevermind, I finally found it. I love these Zelda games, but for some reason I always get stuck in certain parts.

square g-4 is the arrow thing

 

[redhawk]

I'm now stuck again. This has to be the worst Zelda of all time. Most Zelda games at least give you some sense of direction, but not this one.

Anyways, I can't seem to get the In-Credible map. I already defeated both the Earth and Wind Temple and got the 5000 rupee upgrade from the fairy. I've also got the tingle tuner and the tingle chart. It says I should be able to walk up to a post box and pay 201 rupees for the Incredible chart, but everytime I walk up to the box it is empty.