Noobs Vs. Newbs

[Ezekiel86]

This is inspired by the "Rude People" thread, as it briefly touched upon 'Noobs' and 'Newbs'. What are your definitions for these two terms?

As far as I knew 'Newbs' were people who were new to the forum/gaming arena and still had alot to learn/understand, while noobs were people who were deliberate jerks (notably in the gaming arena, as in the infamous Counter-Strike campers with the AWP, players in Metroid Prime Hunters who only use Trace for his Imperialist/Invisibility, or Weavel for his Half-Turret).

What are your thoughts on this one guys?

 

[Brokine]

I never knew there was a difference but I guess those definations sound reasonable enough

 

[Trickz]

n00b = tries and still sucks
newb = new player that may have potential, but may just become a n00b.
n00bs generally are rude to people trying to teach them while newbs try to learn.

 

[registerednerd]

noobs can't win a game without using some kind of cheat.

 

[DBloke]

N00bs = anoy all, think that spaming is funny,have numbers ather there name, dont have a avi/sig, think gaia is fun, never read a forum before posting and say hi in the wrong place

 

[Flip]

As far as I'm aware, Newb is short for Newbie. Noob is an internet slang version of that, and n00b is a "1337 speak" version of it. To me, none of them have different meanings at all, other than how people interpret them. Usually just mix it up. Sometimes newb, sometimes noob. Usually it's just as a joke between the two of us.

 

[The_Mitch]

Newb = someone new to the game
Noob = cheater
Nub = funny insult to friends lol

 

[King Wiired]

Dont hava clue.. sounds right though.. i never say it anyway

 

[MetroidZ]

n00b = asks stupid questions and wants to be spoonfed.

newb = new to the forums, has read some things.

 

[DBloke]

On other forums =N00b requests /h/ without ten posts or spams up to ten posts the requests /h/

Edit : N00bs tend to get killed by the poster called formaly know as Ginyou

 

[in touch with the wii]

noob and newb means the same thing newbie there but plp use it as an insult for some reason hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Kiwi]

N00bs = anoy all, think that spaming is funny,have numbers ather there name, dont have a avi/sig, think gaia is fun, never read a forum before posting and say hi in the wrong place

Aww man...

Btw... i think noob is just another pathetic way to insult some one over the internet.

 

[nintendo lover]

I really dont now the meanings.

 

[The_Mitch]

Newb and noob may have somewhat different connotations. Newbs are simply newcomers—noob and n00b, on the other hand, generally mean someone who is obnoxious, annoying, or breaks the rules or cannot play effectively; whether they are actual newcomers or not is mostly irrelevant. Therefore, a noob may be someone who has been around for a long time but still engages in behavior that he or she should have learned is unacceptable. Noobs are generally confident in what they are doing, but in reality are annoying others. "Newb" is not necessarily an insulting word, but "noob" usually is. If someone makes an unintelligent comment on a forum or asks a question that even other newbies could answer then it is said that they are making a "noobish" comment or asking a "noobish" question. However, due to the evolution of language, the term noob or 'n00b' is now used both ways and newb is used only infrequently.
More experienced players are often encouraged to give friendly advice and help to newbs, to support them as they tackle the learning curve of whichever game they're playing, and some game servers are set up explicitly for the purpose of allowing newbs to gain experience before entering more competitive environments.
"Noob" can also mean a person who claims to know a lot about a subject but in truth does not. It was first used in hacker groups on the BBS chat systems in the 1980s. It is important to note that noob and newb are not necessarily interchangeable. Many times the term noob or n00b will be used by veterans to degrade a user for their lack of knowledge, or claims to know more than they truly do.
Recently, the spelling noob has been used more interchangeably with "newb", however, and is being used in a more joking manner, usually among friends and users on good terms when one user makes a mistake that most veterans would know better not to do, whereas a "newb" or "noob" wouldn't know better. For example, in the computer sense, a user on a bulletin board may call a veteran user as a noob in a joking manner because they didn't search for a topic currently open with the same discussion before posting a discussion of their own.
In online gaming, the term is also often used as a general insult. Frustrated players on the losing team may refer to the winning team as noobs. In this case there is no actual connotation of newness meant; the word is simply being used as an insult. By the same token, members of a dominating team may use the term "noobs" (n00bs) to further frustrate their opposition by implying a general lack of skill on the losing team's part, such as camping (staying in the general vicinity, usually a spawn point, for an extended period of time, especially America's Army and DOOM) or wastefully firing at a wall, wasting ammunition and time, and alerting the enemy. Noob might also be used by veteran players to criticize cheap tactics or overusage of unbalanced weaponry. In an online team game where friendly fire is turned off, a noob "tactic" would be to overuse explosives in cramped areas around fellow teammates. Noob usually applies in games where team-play is important, and the players choose to completely ignore the team structure and goals. Experienced players who find themselves on the losing team may claim to all players that they are on the 'noob team' in order to retain their experienced status and pass off the loss as solely the fault of their teammates. Some other "noobs" are players who overly use "uber weapons" to defeat other players, players who "kill-steal" from others, and players who scam others into losing their items or money.
"Noob" has frequently been written in different forms. Because of the proximity of the "j" key to the "n" key, players in online games often typed "j00b" or "joob" by accident, and the recent proliferation of "nub" has often turned into "jub". Though neither "joob" or "jub" have any meaning, their connection with "noob" makes the two words equivalent. "B00b" and "m00b" sometimes appear in a similar manner ("b" and "m" are right beside "n" in a standard computer keyboard). This is quite similar to the origin of the internet terminology "pwned". According to the most popular theory on the origins of "pwned", it originated from owned when an anonymous gamer made a typing error by pressing the "p" key which is located to the right of the "o" key on a standard computer keyboard. Note that there are alternate theories of "pwned"'s origin. See PWN for more details.

i think that about sums all this up lol

 

[Ezekiel86]

One thing though, I don't quite get the whole "flaming of newbs" in the gaming arena thing, and why are they always the first targeted? If people target the newbs first just for the sake of easy kills or points, maybe they are the real noobs of the arena (because that is like, so dishonourable!).