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Best Edge Guarder?

Discussion in 'Smash Brothers' started by RockerJ, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. RockerJ

    RockerJ Still Obsessed with P4

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    I believe it's Ike. Here's why:

    His D-Tilt will send anyone straight down to their death, even if at 0% damage, and his Up+B has a high strike, and can barely be dodged, if you use an air dodge in the right place going over Ike. He comes back down and, guess what, HE EDGE HOGS. It leaves you only your Up+B (if you have one)to get back up.


    Who do you think it is?
     
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    That is the same way with diddy if you recall he also has a move like that.
     
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    RockerJ Still Obsessed with P4

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    What move might that be?
     
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    I think its the same way you use Ikes.D-tilt.
     
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    RockerJ Still Obsessed with P4

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    I'm not talking about the meteor smash, but the d-tilt on the ground. I'll experiment to see if that's correct, though.
     
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    How did the results come out.
     
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    Splash_King The Scrubbiest of Hunters

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    Yyy, you're so clueless... :p

    Diddy's D-tilt does NOT meteor smash (correct terminology). Simply put.

    Ike is definatly not the best edgeguarder. His D-tilt is hard to aim properly due to the start up, and a get up attack can own him as he cools down from the move. His Up B is also a pathetically weak spike, and if air dodged, he's left open.

    Meta is the best edge guarder due to the tippered, diagonal-horizontal knockback of his D-tilt, his multiple jumps, his spaced F-air with it's horizontal knockback, his Up B kill move/stage spike, and etc. The reasons go on and on. Meta is the best edge guarder, and that can't be denied, lol.
     
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    I knew Meta was king there, but what about just trying to guard it from a standing position? Like Lucas' D Smash.


    Crap.. I'm getting stupider by the moment. Excuse my stupidity.
     
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    from a standing position?

    Snake

    C4/Mine/Rocket/Grenade=DEATH
     
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    True... I'll give you that one.
     
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    How about mario because in a recent thread mario was discussed is he a good edge gaurd.I know he's not the best but is he good.
     
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    ... Well, possibly. Mario's edgeguarding (Cape, B-air, and F-air) isn't too varied and can be predictable, but he's great at edgeguarding certain characters, especially someone like Snake. ... Too bad edgeguarding isn't enough to make him Top Tier like Meta.
     
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    Then thier would have to be even higher of a tier because most people are decent which would throw low to middle and middle to high.(or high middle)
     
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    Yyy, you don't get tiers at all, lol. Tiers measure a character's general capabilities, not how good they are when someone badass uses them. The best player in the world could use Craptain Failcon, but he'd still be bottom tier, lol.
     
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    If you put it in my perspective I say that they are all good.
     
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    And if you put it in my perspective, I say that's incorrect, lol. All characters can edgeguard, but not everyone is good at it. Take Sonic for example; his only edgeguard tool is his spring, his other attacks are easily dodged.

    Compare that to Meta, who can use all his aerials to edgeguard, and... yeah.
     
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    But if you think about it if you can master even a character who is not so good and become the best with him then thier you go :p
     
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    And if you master Meta Knight's edge guarding abilities, he'll edge guard better than a mastered anyone. :p

    Point being, mastering a character doesn't make them the best; there is always a better character that is obviously also mastered by others.
     
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    That's so true, but I am much more comfortable with Wolf or Falco (Falco is a decent edge-guarder, got the laser and a good meteor-smash) than say Meta or Snake. I think that's where he's getting the "whoever you master is best" thing.
     
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    Well since meta rules at everything everybody should use him then the world would be full of meta pros wannabes.
     

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