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First Wii Softmod in Development

Discussion in 'Nintendo Wii Hardware' started by Link_of_Hyrule, Jan 30, 2008.

  1. Link_of_Hyrule

    Link_of_Hyrule Unofficial WiiChat Helper

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    If you guys haven't heard a team of people have finally cracked the Wii's security and they are making a mod that will work on the Wiis that don't have Modchips in them so a "Softmod" like the original xbox had using a glitch in the zelda save system and official nintendo encryption keys that were dumped off of the Wii its said that it would be almost impossible for nintendo to release a patch to fix the glitch and prevent it from being used.

    This is for homebrew not piracy i'm sure it could be used for that eventually but it would be very hard to do because of how its being done but hopefully we will see some nice homebrew channels maybe an unofficial dvd channel and a linux channel heres the links for anyone interested

    http://debugmo.de//?p=59

    http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/article.asp?CIID=102079
     
  2. 261311

    261311 The Man on Ice

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    Interesting.
     
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    could be interesting
     
  4. Link_of_Hyrule

    Link_of_Hyrule Unofficial WiiChat Helper

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    lol is that all you guys have to say that its interesting? lol
     
  5. Apple Guy

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    This wil be great
    NEw channels
    Which will be churned out much faster than nintendo likes!
     
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    261311 The Man on Ice

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    Well, at least we said something, you commented on us :smilewinkgrin:

    It is interesting, however Nintendo may thwart this plan, or the team may quit developing, etc. I didn't see much while I was skimming about many channels but a DVD channel might be nice.

    Either way, meh.
     
  7. rukus

    rukus WiiChat Member

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    interesting is all it is now.
    at least until there is a working model
     
  8. laderer5

    laderer5 Wii > Xbox360 +PS3

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    Atleast they will be putting out stuff hopefully for hardcore gamers.
     
  9. Link_of_Hyrule

    Link_of_Hyrule Unofficial WiiChat Helper

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    They already got hello world script to work but they haven't released anything to the public yet but they showed off some stuff at the hackers conference.

    Its unlikely Nintendo will thwart it or even be able to because it would require changing the encryption keys which would cause all the current released wii games to stop working.

    Plus its not really hurting Nintendo unless it begins to help the piracy community but thats unlikely because of how its done

    Theres plenty of ds and gamecube homebrew out right now i'm sure that the wii homebrew will be just as much once they release the exploit
     
  10. WiitnessID

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    LOL Why go home brew when you can just be a wiiware developer... it's stupidly easy too! This is for piracy period... Nintendo could just release new encryption keys for all of the new Wii's . Yes some Wii's out there will still have this problem yet could nintendo also just update the Wii's channels so that it simply does not run certain files?

    Also too read the post:


    Like I said before the key that he got and easily be changed with in the chip which his believes is in the hollywood, and whose to say it is not different in other Wii's? What he is doing is not so much a soft mode yet some thing that would only benefit development.
    If you want to call it that.

    These are his own words...
    Now once nintendo starts putting out different keys for this chip then thing begin to change once again.

    Also too What happens if nintendo finds away to see that you did do this? Lots of data is saved to the flash drive in the Wii and we all know nintendo comes down hard of people. Some one get this guys a Wii ware sign up card before he gets snatched up!
     
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    LOL yes they could change the encryption keys but they could also just turn you in by seeing what you ran on your Wii...LOL Remember the play time log... I think the key that he found is more like the one developers get so that they can run software. Now you have to wonder did they actually get a key or did they get the decryption algorithm. If they got the Key then that can just be flagged and pulled from the the list or either cause other things to happen. getting a hello world program to work and getting a real game to work are two different things. Nintendo really did some obscure things with this security yet that seems to be buying them time until they find another bug. The inclusion of an online serve could become a problem for this also which would be great for real Wii gamers!

    Some smart guys there though yet I'm sure they don't want nintendo watching them right now and really he needs to be working on a game rather than hacking like this! He reminds me of the factor 5 guys a little.
     
  12. Link_of_Hyrule

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    its perfectly legal to run homebrew and contrary to popular belief not everybody who makes homebrew supports piracy and your wrong the keys are hard coded to the disks if they change them then you would have to get replacement disks and it would only be a matter of time before they got them again
     
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    He was talking about the actualy key on the arm hidden in the hollywood GPU this is no disk it's more like the key you get when you are a developer. That from what I read about the hack. Also too people will try and get some for free at all cost...LOL Home brew can just go the way of Wii ware if they want it badly and if linux group wanted to they only need to apply for a lic and they can put it on the Wii, hell I would think nintendo would mind since opera is running just fine.

    It's a lot easier for these guys to be legit rather than get static from nintendo. Sure it's perfectly legal for you to run it yet it may be legal for nintendo to block you from running it also. Yet hacker will alway find away! You do realize stuff like this cause them to add more security and BS to the system though.
     
  14. Link_of_Hyrule

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    the key on the chip is associated with a key thats on the cd and thats why only signed disks will play on an unmoded wii
     
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    Evi1d33d CheapAssGamer

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    All it takes to fix the exploit will be a mandatory update included in the game disc. So you'll only have a few month of fun before Nintendo puts mandatory updates on all games.
     
  16. Link_of_Hyrule

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    nope they can update the encryption with an update
     
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    just so u know it couldnt b the first softmod being developed because there already was a softmod and with a wii update the boot disc stopped working
    a few groups are working on a boot discs to load from the memory card of either sd and/or gamecube slots
     
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    Yeah, I saw the video for this...it looks like a good step foward, though I dont particularly want ASIO knocking on my door about piracy issues =/
     
  19. Clish

    Clish PM me if you add my wii

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    if it was that easy to stop the mod chips from working nintendo would have done that already... what happens is that the people doing the mod chips have updates as well so again the problem persists
     

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