Project M Discussion Thread

[Mr. MR]

yeah

 

[Splash_King]

Jump canceling, then canceling that jump? lolwut

Did P:M's programmers intend for it t' work like that?

 

[Mr. MR]

IDK

But I was not the first to discover it

 

[Tragonight]

Quick Draw
Then quickly move the control stick to the upward position. Then move your thumb over the X button then quickly slide it down to the A button all while still holding the control stick up.

Hold the A button to charge it

I got this to work........by luck. It's extremely hard to use when L is my only jump button.

Jump canceling, then canceling that jump? lolwut

Did P:M's programmers intend for it t' work like that?

It doesn't seem like he was moving from the ground at all, and Ike was sliding. So no, I don't think it's canceling a jump. He doesn't jump at all.

 

[Splash_King]

In other words, canceling the jump after jump canceling. :lol:

 

[Mr. MR]

All I know is
Quick Dash
Jump
Up-Smash real quickly

 

[Tragonight]

I figured out a trick but I don't know what to call it. Jump cancel? Fall cancel? Attack cancel?

First, you need to stand on a platform. Moving ones like Smashville's work best.
Next, drop down by flicking the control pad down.
Now you can press any command. Timing is crucial: you must still be on the platform but no longer standing on it.

I use Jab (Neutral A) since that seems to be the easiest. If done correctly, the character will fall and then appear back on the platform without jumping.
Smashes are very useful when performing this. However, they have the hardest-to-see results. Try in slow motion to somewhat see it clearly.
If you're good at it, you can move your character around the platform quickly, and use tilts as well. This works with all characters.


EDIT: Most of these won't damage the opponent, but some (like Smashes) will. It works when landing on a platform too.

 

[Mr. MR]

That was back in brawl
It is called Platform Canceling

 

[Tragonight]

That was back in brawl

Seriously? That worked in Brawl?

 

[Splash_King]

lol trago

Way t' rediscover an AT. :lol: I did the same way back when actually, accidentally discovered glide tossing a decent amount'a time after it was known. I used glide tossing in my early With Anyone days without realizing it was a legitimate AT. Someone on here pointed out the AT after we were goofin' off with items on... so then I Googled it.

And that's how I inadvertently learned 'bout DACUSing.

 

[Tragonight]

How come Project M CPUs overabuse Platform Canceling while vBrawl CPUs don't do it at all?

 

[Mr. MR]

The same reason why they wavedash all the time

Advanced Techs are only recognized until the game comes out and people start discovering them. And Nintendo would never purposely add them into their CPUs.

 

[Ninja1]

I figured out a trick but I don't know what to call it. Jump cancel? Fall cancel? Attack cancel?

First, you need to stand on a platform. Moving ones like Smashville's work best.
Next, drop down by flicking the control pad down.
Now you can press any command. Timing is crucial: you must still be on the platform but no longer standing on it.

I use Jab (Neutral A) since that seems to be the easiest. If done correctly, the character will fall and then appear back on the platform without jumping.
Smashes are very useful when performing this. However, they have the hardest-to-see results. Try in slow motion to somewhat see it clearly.
If you're good at it, you can move your character around the platform quickly, and use tilts as well. This works with all characters.


EDIT: Most of these won't damage the opponent, but some (like Smashes) will. It works when landing on a platform too.

So thats how pros do it! Always wondered bout that

 

[Splash_King]

... Ninja, if you're takin' his words as the wisdom of a pro, you're sorely mistaken. No offense Trago. >_>;

Perhaps I'm readin' it wrong, but that's not exactly the most useful way t' use Platform Canceling neither (I'm not even sure how that is useful actually, explain t' me in detail, yeah?). You're s'posed t' use PCing to cancel your jump and immediately attack, cancel the jump and instantly drop through the platform or simply canceling the jump and dashing/fast walking as an approach option. Characters with really floaty full jumps or high jumps like Falco can especially make use of it as an approach option at the platform's height since it's ridiculously quicker than doin' a full jump and then landing on said platform via fast fall.

 

[Mr. MR]

That and Marth's really use it a lot.

If I remember correctly, you fall through the platform, press jump, and then flick the direction stick down, and then perform the attack.
Also can be done by approaching the platform from below.

also it can only be performed on a moving platform