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He could, but N does use a lot of pre Gen V Pokemon too. It's a matter of opinion, and I think they should add some Gen III reps if they have the chance.
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y u gotta ninja me
If they're plannin' Gen 3 remakes, Game Freak might approach Ninty 'bout gettin' Gen 3 Pokemon/trainer(s) in. Nick is therefore goin' crazy 'bout them 'mons he's a fanboy over.
If a new Pokemon character gets in, Gen 5 is also likely since there's no representative.
WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!.flv
The reason Lucario got in is 'cause he was one of Gen 4's mascots since he was one'a the few revealed prior to Gen 4's release. The fact he was popularized by the movie also helped his chances immensely.
From Gen 3. N sure as **** wouldn't be usin' Pokes outside'a Gen 5, bro. If they wanted t' represent Gen 3 enough to dictate the Pokes a trainer would use, N wouldn't get in and Ruby/Sapphire would likely get the slot ('specially since said names aren't half stupid as Red :lol: ).
... Also, Sableye ain't notable. At all. Mawile and Sableye's relation as a related pair'a Pokes is also just that; they're related, not intertwined at all outside'a stats and typing. Both'a 'em wouldn't happen to represent Gen 3. Ever.
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If they're plannin' Gen 3 remakes, Game Freak might approach Ninty 'bout gettin' Gen 3 Pokemon/trainer(s) in. Nick is therefore goin' crazy 'bout them 'mons he's a fanboy over.
If a new Pokemon character gets in, Gen 5 is also likely since there's no representative.
WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!.flv
The reason Lucario got in is 'cause he was one of Gen 4's mascots since he was one'a the few revealed prior to Gen 4's release. The fact he was popularized by the movie also helped his chances immensely.
From Gen 3. N sure as **** wouldn't be usin' Pokes outside'a Gen 5, bro. If they wanted t' represent Gen 3 enough to dictate the Pokes a trainer would use, N wouldn't get in and Ruby/Sapphire would likely get the slot ('specially since said names aren't half stupid as Red :lol: ).
... Also, Sableye ain't notable. At all. Mawile and Sableye's relation as a related pair'a Pokes is also just that; they're related, not intertwined at all outside'a stats and typing. Both'a 'em wouldn't happen to represent Gen 3. Ever.
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....I did legitimately think that my idea was good before, but now I'm just being biased about it, sorry. ^^; Sableye should still be in somehow.
You don't know that N wouldn't use Gen III Pokemon.
Nope. You're a noob if you think that. It has a lot of unique traits, and while it may not be super popular, it's still a unique Pokemon that's quite notable. =/
....so Politoed, Lanturn, Tentacruel, Omastar, Kabutops, Starmie, Ninetales, Arcanine, Rapidash, Shiftry, Ninjask, Leafeon, Hippowdon, Gastrodon, Rhyperior, Scizor, Cradily, Armaldo, Abomasnow, Cloyster, Mamoswine, Froslass, and Glaceon aren't pre Gen V? Huh. Learn somethin' new every day.
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]It just doesn't fit his character. He'd definitely use Gen V. It'd make as much sense as Red usin' Mudkip/Grovyle/Blaziken just 'cause a RSE remake is on the way.
Uniqueness or good design don't mean it's notable. Notable means it's either hugely popular and well known, really important to the series or the star of a bloody movie.
Literally every Gym Leader, Champion etc. uses non-native Pokes post-game. They really don't count.
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Red doesn't use a f-ckton of Pokemon, though. He has a set team.
Not in my definition.
....alright, let's stop talking about this. So what's the deal with Poke Ball Pokemon? Should we get more from previous gens too, or just add ones from Gen V?
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Both. There're obviously plenty'a retro and 3rd/4th Gen Pokes that'd be cool Pokes t' add. There ain't many Fightin' types that work like an assist trophy character; rather than just spammin' a move aimlessly, they actually target an enemy and attack. Like Raiden or Little Mac. Gallade, Hitmonlee (since Chan would just be the Pokemon version of the aforementioned boxer assist...) etc. would work perfectly.
Obviously a bunch'a Gen 5 Pokes will get in as well.
Obviously a bunch'a Gen 5 Pokes will get in as well.
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MAGIKARP
'Sides the aforementioned Fighting types, more Electric types. I mean ****, they took Raikou out but kept Suicune 'n Entei in. In fact, they should return all the Pokes that were in Melee but removed... 'Specially since two of 'em were legendary Electric types. ¬_¬
In particular, I want Pokes t' appear that use moves yet to be seen in Smash. For example, Arbok with Bind. Arbok would derp 'round the stage 'till it decides to lunge at someone. If they get caught, they'l be snared and slowly take damage like in a grab. It won't be nearly as deadly as Gulpin in terms of damage, but the constriction lasts longer and when hit they'd take the knockback and Arbok would be stunned for a short moment (so that the attacker, if not the one who threw the Pokeball, isn't punished for attackin' the person Arbok was omnomnom'in on). Arbok would also constrict multiple foes 'fore leavin'.
I'd like t' see a lot more non-legendary Pokes in general as well t' offset the amount that're in Brawl. More Dragon types 'specially. Flygon for example, could whip up a nasty Sandstorm which slowly damages foes, though the damage racks up dramatically quicker if they're really close t' Flygon. It'd also have a slight vacuum effect. Essentially it'd be a not-so-****in' devastating Sacred Fire, though it'd be impossible to outright avoid.
Darkrai needs t' be a Pokeball 'mon. Fire off a huge barrage'a Dark Void. falcon pawnches will proceed to be landed
'Sides the aforementioned Fighting types, more Electric types. I mean ****, they took Raikou out but kept Suicune 'n Entei in. In fact, they should return all the Pokes that were in Melee but removed... 'Specially since two of 'em were legendary Electric types. ¬_¬
In particular, I want Pokes t' appear that use moves yet to be seen in Smash. For example, Arbok with Bind. Arbok would derp 'round the stage 'till it decides to lunge at someone. If they get caught, they'l be snared and slowly take damage like in a grab. It won't be nearly as deadly as Gulpin in terms of damage, but the constriction lasts longer and when hit they'd take the knockback and Arbok would be stunned for a short moment (so that the attacker, if not the one who threw the Pokeball, isn't punished for attackin' the person Arbok was omnomnom'in on). Arbok would also constrict multiple foes 'fore leavin'.
I'd like t' see a lot more non-legendary Pokes in general as well t' offset the amount that're in Brawl. More Dragon types 'specially. Flygon for example, could whip up a nasty Sandstorm which slowly damages foes, though the damage racks up dramatically quicker if they're really close t' Flygon. It'd also have a slight vacuum effect. Essentially it'd be a not-so-****in' devastating Sacred Fire, though it'd be impossible to outright avoid.
Darkrai needs t' be a Pokeball 'mon. Fire off a huge barrage'a Dark Void. falcon pawnches will proceed to be landed
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What Pokes do ya want in 'sides the ones you're fanboyin' over? :lol:
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Smeargle would merely be a second Togepi... Which I have no problem with. I'd imagine it'd have half weak moves, half strong moves, and a thoroughly rare attack of instantaneous death (ohai Porygon2 from melee) as well as a useless move in splash.
Speakin' of gimmicks, Ditto was s'posed t' be in Melee y'know. I think it'd be pretty interestin'. When sent out, it could randomly transform into any fighter, currently bein' played or not, at random. Once transformed it gets it's own invisible damage percentage 'n can be attacked and even knocked off the stage like any other player (team attack will always be off though). It'l act as a high level CPU 'till it's used 20 moves total, in which it'l transform back and disappear. There'd be a ridiculously low chance it'l turn into the Master Hand or somethin' and the match would continue as the Hand ravages the battlefield for 20 moves.
Speakin' of gimmicks, Ditto was s'posed t' be in Melee y'know. I think it'd be pretty interestin'. When sent out, it could randomly transform into any fighter, currently bein' played or not, at random. Once transformed it gets it's own invisible damage percentage 'n can be attacked and even knocked off the stage like any other player (team attack will always be off though). It'l act as a high level CPU 'till it's used 20 moves total, in which it'l transform back and disappear. There'd be a ridiculously low chance it'l turn into the Master Hand or somethin' and the match would continue as the Hand ravages the battlefield for 20 moves.
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Yeah, Ditto would be really cool to have.
Some other ideas:
Sableye: Sableye would appear, and could shoot Will o wisps at opponents, causing burn damage and halting their movement.
Sharpedo: Could appear and target one particular opponent, and wouldn't stop until it hit them with a powerful attack. Would progressively get faster, thus harder to avoid.
Stunfisk: Flops around on the stage, until soon it lays down on a certain areal; it's flat so it's hard to see. If someone stepped on it they'd get shocked.
Porygon-Z: Would act like Porygon 2 from SSBM, only instead of just a tackle it would use a short ranged Tri Attack.
Castform: Could do one of three things:
-Cause a rain storm which results in winds pushing players a little bit, and can fire off orbs of water (Weather Ball)
-Causes it to become sunny, and sometimes bursts of light would make it hard to see the screen. Would use Fire Weather Ball
-Causes it to Hail, causing damage to players over time. Uses an Ice type Weather Ball.
Rotom: Can posses a nearby device (aside from characters), which can be a stage element or an item. If there isn't something for it to posses within ten seconds, it releases a Discharge attack in all directions and leaves. If there is an item for it to posses, it goes into it and goes around the stage, sometimes releasing electricity and other projectiles, depending on the item. This Pokemon is unique because it works best on certain stages, and when other items are turned on.
Items it can take control of:
-Cracker Launcher (flies around the stage while shooting fireworks)
-Ray Gun (Flies around while shooting lasers)
-Super Scope (Flies around shooting balls of energy)
-High tech crate/barrel (Flies around the stage; high knockback)
-Beam Sword (Flies around while slashing)
-Wario's Bike (Rides around the stage while jumping occasionally)
It can also control certain stage elements, such as an F-Zero car, a kart in Mario Circuit, an Arwing in Corneria, etc.
Upon writing this idea for Rotom, I began to think it wouldn't work at all, but I'm posting it anyway cause I want opinions.
Some other ideas:
Sableye: Sableye would appear, and could shoot Will o wisps at opponents, causing burn damage and halting their movement.
Sharpedo: Could appear and target one particular opponent, and wouldn't stop until it hit them with a powerful attack. Would progressively get faster, thus harder to avoid.
Stunfisk: Flops around on the stage, until soon it lays down on a certain areal; it's flat so it's hard to see. If someone stepped on it they'd get shocked.
Porygon-Z: Would act like Porygon 2 from SSBM, only instead of just a tackle it would use a short ranged Tri Attack.
Castform: Could do one of three things:
-Cause a rain storm which results in winds pushing players a little bit, and can fire off orbs of water (Weather Ball)
-Causes it to become sunny, and sometimes bursts of light would make it hard to see the screen. Would use Fire Weather Ball
-Causes it to Hail, causing damage to players over time. Uses an Ice type Weather Ball.
Rotom: Can posses a nearby device (aside from characters), which can be a stage element or an item. If there isn't something for it to posses within ten seconds, it releases a Discharge attack in all directions and leaves. If there is an item for it to posses, it goes into it and goes around the stage, sometimes releasing electricity and other projectiles, depending on the item. This Pokemon is unique because it works best on certain stages, and when other items are turned on.
Items it can take control of:
-Cracker Launcher (flies around the stage while shooting fireworks)
-Ray Gun (Flies around while shooting lasers)
-Super Scope (Flies around shooting balls of energy)
-High tech crate/barrel (Flies around the stage; high knockback)
-Beam Sword (Flies around while slashing)
-Wario's Bike (Rides around the stage while jumping occasionally)
It can also control certain stage elements, such as an F-Zero car, a kart in Mario Circuit, an Arwing in Corneria, etc.
Upon writing this idea for Rotom, I began to think it wouldn't work at all, but I'm posting it anyway cause I want opinions.
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RockerJ
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Goldeen should be replaced by Magikarp and Feebas.
That is all.
That is all.
WiiAssasin
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That one actually makes sense. Don't know why they didn't go with that.
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