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  1. yungblood6

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    I am so sick and tired of people trying to blame video games for poor parenting! When are people going to realize that video game don't force you to do any thing. They cant move for you, they cant think for you, they cant react for you! so why is it that people think video games can take the blame for your actions?

    This is just another recent attempt to say video games made me do it.
    http://www.qj.net/Alleged-Mortal-Kombat-imitating-babysitters-charged-with-murder/pg/49/aid/110127

    In my honest opinion if they would kick a little girl around then they were not responsable enough to watch her in the first place! Second last time i checked kids were doing wrestling and karate moves since way before mortal kombat was even thought of. So just because he so happend to be playing the game before this happend its the games fault? Its the parents fault for having poor judgement and leaving her child with kids themselves. I for one wouldnt leave my child with no one under the age of 17, and if they were indeed that age they should get punished for murder period, no insane plea no, video game made me do it plea! They should have common sense to know that games are fake, and things done on the game are not to be done in real life! If they didnt understand that then that is poor parenting not a video games fault!

    I mean that like me saying oh i just got through playing mario galaxy let me try to fly in space, or i just got through playing cod4 let me go snipe some people. Hey i was playing smash bros let me take a table and smash it on some ones head. I would think we would have more common sense than that!

    For those parents on wii chat lets not let the video game be the parents and the babysitter, lets teach our kids right from wrong, and real from fake! We have to do this before gaming as we know it is censored and creativity is taken away!

    I know i for one don't want to stop playing GTA just because the next Aholes kid cant tell the differnce from right and wrong, or Fake and reality. Hell the next aholes kid isnt even supposed to be playing that type of game anyway!
     
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    To be honest, it's a controversial issue, but i've concluded that if people are truly influenced like your example "yungblood6", then they're are obviously not mature enough to play games. But some games stand out from the rest, i don't know about manhunt, is that really as bad as some people claim, they say it made a kid in england do some really bad stuff
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/3936597.stm.
    I think that ones down to maturity aswell, but i was gonna say that there's this game called biko6 i think it's somewhere on tis site, i think the thread's called top 8 or 7 worst games ever made. Anyway it makes you question the mind frame of some of the developers, i mean what was the guy thinking when he made biko6?

    At the end of the day, games are entertainment, i mean i love resident evil games, and like me we enjoy the thrill, and i worship dbz bt3, kids love this game too, but you don't see them doing kame hame haa's do you?

    merry Christmas!
     
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    well thats just my point games don't make you do any thing. They don't put the gun in your and and say pull the trigger. They don't tell you to lift your leg and drop kick a little girl till she dies.

    Just like tv, you see a action scene like in bourne ultimatim you don't go out and start trashing things, and kicking peoples asses.

    The developers have the right to make the games that they want to make, just like music, and movie people have the right to make the movies they want to make. Its up to the parents to know what your kid is ready to view, listen, or play. Video game arent just for kids, just like movies arent just for kids, and music isnt all highschool musical.

    That game had nothing to do with those kids acting like dipshits, and being irresponsible. It also had nothing to do with the mother leaving that little girl in the hands of her stupid brother and whoever the other one was.

    To me its nothing contraversal about it! Parents need to use better judgement, teach there kids better, and know what your child is doing.

    I know the first argument is well kids can outsmart their parents, well if thats true you don't need kids. Its like i see kids telling their parents what to do now adays. Then you get on youtube and you see kids yelling at there parents, or you get on xbox live and you can hear these 10and 11 year old kids telling their parents what they not going to do. Yea ok i don't know what happend to where that **** was ok! I wish i would try to tell my dad what im not going to do, or even my mom. Get knocked into the middle of next week. Then its those same parents that try to say its the video games that make their kids do that. Get out of here its you letting your kid treat you like you was a kid thats making them do that.
     
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    I see your angle, but despite the evidence of poor parenting and common sense, this whole issue is actually causing much debate, and is actually getting retailers to not sell certain games and such. :p

    But don't you think the mind set's of the creators of that Biko3 game is questionable too, its a game where you have to rape girls?
     
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    yea but at the same time if you dont feel thats some thing that should be played you just don't play it. Even if you do play it are you going to go out an rape girls after you play it? The person with a brain would say no because its not right and would have me in jail for a long period of time. but a person that is not in his right mind would go out an rape a girl. If he would do that would it be inturn because he played the game or infact there was something wrong with him in the firstplace?
     
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    Point taken, i love games too, i mean its a good stress reliever, and it keeps kids out of mischief, like drinking or stuff like that, but some people i dunno, maybe they're mentally sort of had hard time and are sort as a result are influenced maybe. It's clearly some psychological thing, isn't it.

    I think more people should play games, i think allot of people already do, but not everyone, my cousins play some final fantasy game online, it looks cool, but also looks hard work too. The ability to talk to people around the work, and compete against them too.
    Personally i loved cs, that was great, but i quit a while back, about 5 years ago now. But i was wicked at quake 3 arena, i stopped playing that about 3 years ago too. Now its all this whip of work craft stuff, its looks pretty cool, around 9 million players, that allot!

    Yeah so games are great, you can't knock it until you've tried it, and i think people saying stuff like banning this and such don't know the sort of bigger picture.

    merry Christmas!
     
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    i hate that older people think it was video games because they cant except there kids killing someone.

    about the mortal combat story- i would say it did infulence the murder but still it didnt make them do it(and 90% of the moves in MC are impossible to di in real live)

    to manhunt- this story is all wrond it was the perso that got killed owned a copy of manhunt and not the murderer
     
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    ok i just looked into that game and thats some wierd ****! But that most likely won't hit the US shores. Are you playing the girl or the dude? Then as i watched more vids it realy just looks and plays like most Hintia(don't know how to spell it) movies.

    See at the same time things like that are ok over there, as well as porn you can find porn shops right next to mcdonalds over there. They don't view porn as offencive as we do over here. They also got some game that all you do is touch spots on the girl and try to make her cum, its all wierd.

    But at the same time after playing that im not going to go rape a girl, and i would hope to god that no one would let there kids play that game. That would just be poor parenting at its worse.
     
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    kids these day's can do allot, i'm sure theres plenty of young hackers out there too, but don't you think if certain games got into thier hands it would shake them up a little. I mean that biko3 game is seriously as good as showing a young kid porn movie.
    My point is that, is there anyone who take pleasure in a game here raping girls, is suppose to be fun, i dont think so.

    I'm actually drifting a little off my point here, but i think games are wicked, but not that game!
     
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    ok i realy don't understand that biko3 game! whats with the chick with the sword, and whats with the chick with the gun. Do you play them are you trying to solve a rape or are you just the guy raping girls and if so why would i stalk a girl with a katana, or yet a gun? but yea this game is realy messed up.
     
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    ok i watched some more vids but cant realy make out any thing its all in japanese but i think you are the girl and you get raped, and then you have to try to find out who did it. Its still wierd though but kinda like some hardcore csi.
     
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    ok, frankly i give a monkey's asss about it, but your original point is valid.

    merry Christmas!
     
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    lol yea this game is seriously f'ed up wow, its not to say that game developers arent tastless too but they do have a right to make what they want.
     
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    Point is loads of people have the game
    1 person trys to copy it
    The prob is that person not the game

    That under age thing is a load of shite my nepthew played gta 3 (he was about 13) and hes turned out ok
     
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    its just a exscuse for stupd adults to get kids off video games
     
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    This whole issue with children and video games boils down to one word, RESPONSIBILITY, most parents today are still children themselves and there concept of parenting is playing with a child when it suits them and if it doesn't then we will just find some substitute to occupy the child's time. In a world suffused with excessive mediocrity parenting is something you just can't do on a whim. You have to be responsible for your children and teach them how to be responsible for themselves. I guarantee if you walked into any classroom today sat down and watched for an hour you would see things that just blow your mind, at least half the kids would have no idea what it means to be respectful and responsible. The one thing I have noticed most in my travels is that parents seem to think there children are pets or status symbols or little trophies to prove that they are good humans, which is wrong on so many levels I can't even begin to talk about it. If you are a parent, you have one job, you may work somewhere else but you still have only one job, and that is to raise a child, for most people in today's world that is just to much, they can't handle it so they pass it on to the most convenient distraction available, which unfortunately for those of us that are able to raise children and love them, is video games. They have no concept of what they are teaching children by doing this. And no I am not blaming video games for anything at all, but if you are going to allow your children to play games it is your responsibility to take the time and play it with your child, explain it to them and make damn sure they understand the difference between a game and the real world. Like I said take responsibility for your children thats all it takes, as a parents and a hardcore gamers, that is all we can do.
     
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    varry well said
     
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    I don't believe in censorship but honestly if a little kid plays a violent game there is probably a small chance it might have a bad influence on them. Of course video games don't make people do stupid stuff but they may influence people.

    Also as already said, It comes down to personal responsibility and good parenting.
     
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    I agree with you yungblood6 and the other guy. Its not the games fault!- and parents these days are just kids themselves.

    We can debate over anything, but it all boils down to parents being Responsible for teaching their kids right and wrong.

    I like to refer to the kids in this generation as the New Kids! - many have no respect for authority, their parents, and no one else for that matter.

    We kill people every day over in Iraq, no one's blaming War Games for that.

    People just have to learn that their is a right and wrong, and you are held responsible for your own actions.

    Like you said yungblood6, I love super mario galaxy, but I aint bout to fly to outer space just to see if I can do what mario did.

    Its good to some to put the blame on others because it make lite of the real situation. I haven't heard about the incident that you are talking bout, but its not the games fault.

    That is the main reason in all new consoles that their are Parental Controls. If you think that there is a game kids are not suitable to play, DO NOT LET THEM PLAY!

    BOTTOM LINE- LETS LEARN TO TAKE RESPONSIBLITY FOR OUR OWN ACTIONS!
     

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