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Discussion in 'Nintendo Wii Chat' started by tampa2012, Jan 7, 2008.
Hahaha! That video was crap until the last 60 seconds :lol:
haha that video was funny:lol:
wow awsome episode but its nothing in stone its all annalyst saying they think they should bring out a wii 2 to compete graphically with 360 and ps3
the thing is this long term goal of ps3 lasting 10 years and so on porbably wont happen... the 360 and ps3 are at the limit of todays technology... the wii obviously can improve with better graphics and support of HD technology... and even though they thought the ps3/360 couldnt improve because they were leading in graphics... obviously they can improve on game play...
so im thinking we will see all 3 come out with a new gen in the 2011-2012 time area not because they want to but because they have too... sony will barely make any money at that point with the ps3 but unless they can do a massive update and include better gameplay it will be stale to anyone and the hardcore will already be done buying what they need, same thing goes for 360...
and by that time HD programing should have a stong enough foothold in every home that nintendo will be slipping out of popularity just because of compatability issues alone...
Its a time of change not only in the gaming industry but in the electronics industry as well and it kinda puts any of there future plans up in the air untill the dust settles...
untill it does i doubt much money will be wasted ...
lol wii sex 2
yes it was a half assed sequal that sucks ass
they were honest about it though in the title... atleast he got a free DS
Yeah, I'll have to agree with that. Nintendo never will surpass Sony nor Microsoft in graphics as that's one of the areas they focus on the most (as it's part of hardware, and that's the only huge difference between the two consoles in reality).
normally nintendo acctually does beat someone else on graphics.
in the last gen the graphics of the GC acctually beat out the PS2... granted the PS2 was the first console to launch with xbox and GC at about the same time... so they had a chance to see the competition and beat it after the fact..
same withthe one prior to that N64-PS1 although based on most games its hard to tell alot of times unless they release the same title side by side and then its barely noticeable... even so, graphics doesn't mean you win... segas last ditch effort proved that with the Dreamcast...
incredibal system but because it launched between ps1 and ps2 it kinda got killed.. although this is one of the best "hacker" systems being able to boot almost every rom game equal to the Dreamcast graphics...
Im gonna guess nintendo will wait this next round.. see what xbox tosses out there and then top that.. they have the know-how and will have the money to beat it thats for sure
No way, I'm gonna stamp this as total BS in my mind
nintendo wouldn't make another system just to compete graphically, i think they're okay just having the best games :yesnod:
Sega doesn't exist anymore though dude.
Besides, if we really want to put it down to the nitty-gritty, it's the game developers that determine the graphics of a game on a console, the console just may have difficulty processing it properly. Sony/ Microsoft developers have practically been ordered to focus on more graphically stunning hits.
Haha the Wii Sex videos are funny.
Good my wii shuts off whenever it gets too hot.
My wii is over a year old though.
did you read past the first line? Game Cube beat sony last round agenst ps2... before that they beat ps1 with N64 its argued alot but true....
this is acctually the first time nintendo has "lost" graphics wise... usually they are the top dog or in the middle...
Sega is still around but the only make games not consoles
and your right it is all up to game Developers to show you what a system can do.. for nintendo this has been more of a short comming because they have alot of 1st and 2nd party exclusive games that are considered the "Hits" of nintendo.. and alot are more catoon like Mario,Zelda, even metroid is more colorful then the average shooter... Great games and great looking but hard to compare to other systems darker deeper colored games... people confuse this with less graphics power because it isnt as lifelike...
but sony and micrisoft dont have Developing teams like Nintendo or the long lasting 1st and 2nd party game franchises, besides a few such as Halo, they rely on 3rd party games to keep them in demand...
The 3rd party games normally go nuts on the games graphics to try to get someone to put it on there system... you cant just wake up and decide one day your going to make PS3/360 games... you have to convince that company to support your game in there format license it to them sign a contract ect. ect....
Thats why the graphics are always a big seller... but nintendo doesnt rely on 3rd party sales to stay afloat as much, they just get extra for it... so you dont see 3rd party nintendo developers competing with graphics...
but now with the Dominating share of the market that nintendo has, alot of the hott titles that hit 360/ps3 will also hit the wii for extra sales alone...
theres so much upgrading the wii could already do without a new console..
memory boost using sd cards and ready drive software..
dvd playback capability
bluetooth headset and chat functionality
personally what I'd like to see nintendo release is a LAN server to let you play all the multiplayer games over a lan rather then through the internet. Wii lan parties would be nice!
I liked the second vid better...
Anyway I think we're all agreed, there will not really be a Wii 2...
Man you guys really believe that nintendo couldn't make a better system than the PS3? Really... I mean thats easy just take blue ray out and use that money to put a real 8800 in there with enough ram. Seriously, the Wii has 88 megs of ram if I remember correctly! If they can squeeze (points at 1st party games) that much out of 88 megs of ram when epic couldn't do it with 256 then I would hate to see what they could do with 512 of it! I mean really the only thing the Wii is really lacking is a easy way to do real normal mapping. I say easy because good normal maps do not fit into 88 negs of ram. I use the PC as an example because that is the true birth place of the current console tech since Power VR is no where to be found.
The whole normal mapping thing really hit japan hard it seems. No one over there was ready for it. Yet there is no epic or id over in japan either. I mean really it would be very easy for nintendo to throw a really nice full featured GPU in there along with the current Wii tech and just charge you more like the other guys. Also too this tech is falling in price really hard in the PC sector.
What is even funnier is I don't think this would even hurt the current market since most people who got a Wii didn't really need HD gaming. And if you really want that then the though of a New Wii with better tech to support current visions of so called hardcore gaming is a good thing! It's like having the GBA and the DS in the same market. I mean really when you think about it you could sell your Wii right now and buy a PS3 in most cases...LOL Why couldn't you do that to get a Wii 2?
Sorry if I ignored the fact that the first post was a little false yet I just wanted to ponder the what if. So really think about it lots of people think the Wii is part of another market and they treat it that way.
Really great post.
They could also just add a new remote to the mix. like a pro version of it that has 3 points of reference instead of two. Then they could just release new twist on the Wii mote tech as in the Same ways Mr. Lee did along with others that copy minority report interfaces. Adding calibration and tweaking software would be such a big upgrade that hardly any one could deny how good the system was.
Yet currently the HD systems are a lot like PC parts yet with less bang to them and more games. It's cool and all but I'm not that impressed as they could have pushed the limit a little more.
Even with the best studio and all the money you ever wanted to fund a game it could still be crap.
Thats why I like nintendo they take simple stuff and make it fun and complexed in a weird way.
We will have a new HD standard coming out soon also. If you didn't know you better read up on it!
Everyone relax. itll prolly be just a black wii that plays DVDs. Not an actual new system. people are so gullbile it blows my mind,.
no nintendo wii 2 ... what more can we want i mean i wouldnt like poor old Mario all glossy ... just for better graphixs... thats really the difference well to me ... i see ps3 and the 360 just a good excuse to make everthing shiney and glossy but... you know ... just wanted to add my taught into this
Playstation - Playstation 2 - Playstation 3
It can happen. Microsoft just added a number to their new console as well.
X-Box - X-Box 360
Not imposible, but this add is bogus regerdless.