If America was a communist state,

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this writer's strike would be irrelevant. Everybody must admit it, that communism is at its core, much better than capitalism. If it wasn't screwed up by crazy dicatators, we'd all see how good it is.

Btw, I actually am serious about this post. I have been known to be sarcastic in the past.
 
If America were a communist state, not only would those writers not be able to strike, their writing would be tightly controlled by the government and thus vastly inferior.

You might think communism is like some solution to all the problems of the world, but in practice it always fall apart because eventually some despot like Stalin or Kim Il-sung ends up in charge. Even if we ignore them, communism is by its nature a dictatorial system. Prices could be fixed as high as the government wished and you wouldn't be able to do a thing about it, since there would be no alternatives. And without competition between companies and the prospect of fame and fortune, many people would lose the incentive to achieve anything, slowing the rate of technological advance. Only through freedom of the market can society be truly free.
 
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yes but communism requires Everyone to do things without any motivation and all of them must cooperate. The true "communism theory" breaks when one has to insert power for everyone to follow the rules and come on. No one wants to do that.
Ironically true communism has nothing to do with the government. If everyone was equal in theory, everyone would be happy and no one would need the government. But of course that is not possible.
 
Napalmbrain said:
If America were a communist state, not only would those writers not be able to strike, their writing would be tightly controlled by the government and thus vastly inferior.
Agreed :yesnod:

Napalmbrain said:
Even if we ignore them, communism is by its nature a dictatorial system. Prices could be fixed as high as the government wished and you wouldn't be able to do a thing about it, since there would be no alternatives.
Some would argue this is possible within a democratic society as well. All it takes is a monolithic majority control of a capitalist system where the economic backbone of a nation is owned by a just a few, and the parties who nominate those who will be in the primaries come next election time have there hands deep in the pockets of these companies. Then you have all the makings of a democratic dictatorship.

Napalmbrain said:
And without competition between companies and the prospect of fame and fortune, many people would lose the incentive to achieve anything, slowing the rate of technological advance.
Well if my memory serves correctly the Soviets was first to everything space related during there golden years except landing on the moon. There is some that will argue that we even did that.

Secondly, China proved that a communist government can prosper by the adoption of a controlled capitalist economy. Unfortunately, capitalism doesn't define freedom any better than Marxism. I believe both systems are equally corrupt in there own right (soviet communism and capitalism), as long as one or the few guide the many, the power will be abused and people will suffer.

I believe that our next major advancement in governmental architecture is some nation will reform there government system to something in between, even though Marxist supporters will argue that modern communism doesn't reflect the ideals of Mr. Marx. Marxism was intended to be something in between, however if you ever read Marx's governmental plans it doesn't clearly specify such details as to the line between the government and civil liberties such as personal property. The idea was good, which was intended to remove power from the hands of corporations instead be regulated by a community (by means of government regulation). It all goes back to that power corrupts issue.

Napalmbrain said:
Only through freedom of the market can society be truly free.
I disagree, as I believe it's liberty that defines freedom. Good stuff none the less. :)
 
If it wasn't screwed up by crazy dicatators, we'd all see how good it is.
AHAHHAHAAAHHAAHHAAHHAHA

IF Fast-food wasn't loaded with fat, it would be the ultimate cuisine!

Bad example...but you have to come down from those insanely idiotic theoreticals... It will never happen, as people in a socialistic state will automatically follow a singe strong leader.

Marx was a genius, if we lived in a perfect world...
 
i agree, communism is potentially the best way a country could be ran, but it just hasn't been pulled off correctly.
 
There are way too many people in America for a communism to work. People are way too lazy as well.

Communism would only work in small, close communities with people who actually cared about each other, not in a whole country with several big cities in which you don't know a vast majority of the people there.
 
laziness is the bane of capitalism... what kind of argument is THAT chewy?

You're thinking of Classical Republicanism...
 
Brawny said:
laziness is the bane of capitalism... what kind of argument is THAT chewy?

You're thinking of Classical Republicanism...


I'm not saying that capitalism is the way to go or anything, I'm just saying that communism wouldn't work in the US.

Theres simply no motivation in communism so of course there are going to be tons of lazy people doing the bare minimum, but in a capitalism if you work harder you are rewarded more.
 
The fact of the matter is that there is no way in hell that the United States would ever resort to becoming a communist state. Also from to understanding the US during the time period of the 1900's to present day today has been the leading country which has strongly opposed communist states and dictators. Now before someone brings up China and its ties with the US it has come to my attention that the only reason that the US doesn't necessarily oppose them is due to their trading ties with the country.

Suggested fictional novel about communism:

1984
 
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