Well first off id like to say ive been reading these boards since launch, and ive been reading alot from the PS3 thread.. now im not attacking anyone i just need to get something off my chest... ive heard it all ... wii is kiddy, had poor graphics, blah blah. im 20 years old and have had a nintendo since i was 2-3 years old... and id assume the same for most of you. now nintendo games have always been fun remember the days when the games were fun and no one cared about the graphics and whether it was a "kiddy" game or not... i do.. and i thinkg most of the people who say nintendo is kiddy or poor graphics are just scared to admit that they actually like nintendo and they feel the need to act all "grown up" and need FPS and graphics to have fun. they really like nintendo but all their friends have ps3 or xbox so they have to fit in with the herd... ive been there back in the days of SNES/sega...what am saying here is do you guys remember when games used to be fun before graphics and gore were the thing? no one gave a damn and why should they give a damn about them now? glad to get that off my chest it really irks me when i read all these threads about kiddy nintendo games... but remember you all played mario and "kiddy games"! remember your roots!!