its clear that the creators wanted to nerf the dreaded chain grabs and to an extent, limit the grab combos that found a home in every melee MLG event. knockback seems higher with every normaly spammed combo grab and hit stun seems to always wear off before the combos that were once common place can be started. i havent played the game but from the looks of things all chain grabs are a thing of the past... the automatic ones anyways ex: marth's up throw sheik's down throw IC downthrow down air with nana all are nerfed. but some of the combo's seem to have gotten better... marth's back throw f smash seems to tipper alot more and sheik seems to have wicked combo ability out of her f throw with her 'nerfed' f air. so although chain grabs and shffls seem to be a thing of the past, to me it seems combos are still the name of the game. they have not been completely nerfed as some had feared but tweaked and altered to add variation. these are my thoughts on these things. anyone else?