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Should they put in Advanced Techniques?

Discussion in 'Smash Brothers' started by Arsid, Jan 25, 2008.

  1. Arsid

    Arsid Arsidic Member

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    I was browsing some threads and I saw a bunch of people saying stuff like "Oh, I'll be good, I can shuffle and wave dash and stuff."

    Well, I can shuffle and wave dash too....


    However, so far, brawl has no L-canceling, or wave dashing. This is the reason a lot of professional Smash brother players are mad. This game is going to be a lot slower game play wtihout L-cancels. And without L-cancels....you can't shuffle. and without wave dashing...you can't wave dash.

    Do you think they should put these advanced things in Brawl so the pros can stay professional? Or do you think they should leave them out so the n00bs aren't as far away as the pros?

    Personally, I want them to put them in Brawl. Since I can do all that advanced stuff, I want to enjoy owning the n00bs until everyone knows about that advanced stuff. (It would only be awhile until n00bs started learning to shuffle and wavedash anyway). I just want to feel the satisfaction that I'm better then some people
    (im not saying im pro, no way am i pro. I can just do the things pros can. I still can't do it as efficiently and professionally as they do.)

    So what do you people think?
     
  2. balrogs.pa

    balrogs.pa Wiichats Idiot Identifier

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    Yes. Of course most 'advance techniques' were glitches. but thats what makes versus mode so fun, Its not like mortal kombat where theres about 20 moves, and thats all you could do. you can find out new things that even the makers might not know about.
     
  3. Brawny

    Brawny Anglophobiphile

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    It's not an advanced "technique", it's "using game glitches depending on how hard they are to pull off"

    Halo 3 dropped BXR, double shot, super bounce...
     
  4. Shoko

    Shoko The Shoke

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    Of course there will be "techniques"/"glitches", but I don't care much for them since I never have to use them.
     
  5. Frogger

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    I want them in the game, it's not exactly cheating, it just hasn't been tested properly. People aren't that stupid, in fact I think it makes them better seeing themself lose all the time, maybe we'd actually get some competition in a wifi game once in a while.

    I can't wavedash, or do anything, I'm particularly bad at the game, but without people using those I have some chance of winning, even though that's really not meant to happen.
     
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    GigaRidley Ouroboros

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    I can wavedash...kinda... I don't usually use it though.
    I'd personally like L-cancelling and wavedashing to return so I can get good at them :lol:
     
  7. Druidan

    Druidan WiiChat Member

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    If ya can't kill a wee n00blet with precise timing and strategic maneuvering using the regular moves, then you'll not have a reason to call yerselves pros in Brawl.

    Seriously though, there will always be "a better way to fight" and the people who use those advanced "techniques", even if they aren't as convenient as Melee's glitches, will win. The best will win. It won't be because somebody knows something that the other person doesn't, it'll be because he's honestly better.
     
  8. SkullKid

    SkullKid I really don't care.

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    wavedashing? L-cancelling? please explain... once again, i feel really dumb.:rolleyes:
     
  9. balrogs.pa

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    Not really. I use wave dashing and a bunch of other moves yet i will still lose to my brother in melee.
     
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    toomstone "tango down"

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    i can do those stuff but i find it is to easy i perfer using properways of fighting and if i start to loose then i just spam air moves as i rule in the air
     
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    I dont think L-cancelling is completely out of the picture just yet. People that went to E for All said that L-cancel can still be done but not in the same way you use to in Melee.

    Source: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=121329
     
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    As D1nner has posted (saving me the time of finding the article :)), L-canceling isn't out, it's just different. I personally feel it was wrong to take out Wave Dashing/SHFFL/etc. If anything, they should have made it a little easier so that as casual players get better, they could use these techniques more easily. That way, the pros could still stand out by using these moves in a more advanced way.

    I think this may be the only mistake I've seen Sakurai make yet.
     
  13. anax4aero

    anax4aero Nintendo Connoisseur

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    Personally, I never really like to exploit those game glitches...I was generally annoyed when in Mario Kart people began using the snake thing, which instead of making the game enjoyable made it a pain to play (sore thumbs).

    Seriously, I think games are more enjoyable the way they're supposed to be played. I can wave dash, but I seriously hate doing it...I'd rather play in a less stressed manner just for fun, not to win everytime. Also, I think it's cooler that people become pros by exploiting a characters ability, not by learning how to use x glitch to move faster or pull combos.
     
  14. AoWFraggit

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    "advanced techniques" were just glitches that were discovered and eventually exploited by gamers to gain an edge. brawl is bound to have some glitches, and it will only be a matter of time before players begin to take advantage of these little kinks and develop entirely new "advanced techniques" specifically for brawl.
     
  15. Frogger

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    Hahahaha, you just need breaks to stop it being painful. It made the game more enjoyable, racing normally makes everything seem so slow, and doesn't give in the slightest bit of edge for competition.
     
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    anax4aero Nintendo Connoisseur

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    Seriously? it just looked plain retarded to see everyone drifting from one side to the other...and the competition in Mario Kart lies in the items and obstacles, no? Just like in Brawl it should be about how well you can use a character's moves.

    I'm strongly with Sakurai on this one. It's why I agree about not having score boards, because then there's always one life-less jerk who will play just to win first place and exploit the fact other people have jobs and education. I value fun a lot more than victory.
     
  17. Wii....

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    WWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NO WAVEDASHING OR L-CANCELING IN BRAWL!!!!!!!!:yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :wtf: :yikes:

    WHAT THE **********************:mad5:

    BRAWL IS LAME WITH OUT ADVANCED MOVES. I WAVE DASH AND L-CANCEL SO PERFECTLY. I PRACTICED AND ACHIEVED. IM ALWAYS CONSIDERED THE BEST IN SSB AND SSBB. (under my older brother). NOW BRAWL WILL LIMIT MY POWER TO NOOB LEVEL.{OFCOURCE I'LL ALWAYS BE BETTER}.

    THIS IS LLAAAMMMMEEEEEE

    or maybe im to into the game. its just a game, its only supposed to be fun based.

    but still, advanced techniques made the game more fun. :lol: more fun to demolish people that cant use advanced techniques :lol:

    EDIT:

    L-canceling is notg out....... good. :smilewinkgrin: now i shall demolish all:ciappa: ....... terribly:cool:

    you know i love you all right. no hard feelings:aureola:
     
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    I'm a snaker, I'm not going to stop snaking, so I really don't think you should argue this with me. I'm quite the stubborn one. xD

    The items weren't enough, they were boring, it's jus sitting and waiting, snaking actually makes me feel like you do something in the game. Yeah, without it, it'd pretty much let down the Mario Kart series, and I think it's going to be back for the Wii version so, I will be snaking.

    I'm all for no rankings, but I'd like to view my own records once in a while, I don't know, I just actually like having them there, viewing friend records, I don't mind either, because I know they won't actually be cheating. But, if they use a "glitch" then it's fine, it adds a new factor to the game, if they really wanted to get rid of it then they would ahve made more thorough tests of the game, aren't they supposed to have professionals test these things anyway?
     
  19. ssbb_lover

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    If you call Sakai-san a professional, yeah.
     
  20. Brawny

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    Have we gotten word on region locking online for MK and Brawl? And IS guitar hero region free with friend codes?

    On topic...If you couldn't snake, what would your opinion on glitches be?

    I should sue because Nintendo is discriminating against people who broke their thumbs.
     

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