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Discussion in 'Xbox Consoles' started by Cabe, Jan 7, 2007.

  1. Cabe

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    I was just thinking...
    When the PS1 came out the games were on CD and took a few hundred Mb each. When the PS was first launched people commented on how the disks had way to much room than needed yet by the end of the PS1 games were being squeezed onto the CDs. Then came the PS2 and DVD with a few Gb of storage, again people commented that we would not really need all that room but at the end of the PS2 era games are being squeezed onto DVD's.
    Now comes the PS3 and BluRay and guess what, I've heard plenty of comments on how we don't need all that space but I'd be willing to bet that by the end of this generation the games are taking up the whole disks.
    Now, you may be wondering why I'm talking about the Playstations when this was posted in the Xbox sub-forum. Don't worry, this all leads to a point.

    The Xbox360 games come on DVD. To me that seems like a bit of a flaw. When games get bigger and bigger they are not going to be able to fit effectivly onto DVD's so what are Microsoft going to do?
    They can't really switch formats to HD-DVD at some point as it would leave people NEEDING to purchase the HD-DVD drive.
    It seems to me that by sticking with last generations storage medium Microsoft may have a serious problem later down the line.

    They could, I guess, Offer games on HD-DVD for those that have the drive and on multiple DVDs for those that don't but that seems like such an ineffective way of doing so.

    You're opinions on this matter
     
  2. PtonJalken

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    Its not the Blurays space most people are ranting about, but its price and how sony are pushing it just for a few companies will even 'try' it.
     
  3. Sovieto

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    yah but the jump on storage between these discs is way bigger than ps1-ps2
    and m$ already stated the hddrive will not play games and it is only for people who want to watch hd movies on their xbox
    and dosent this mean wii messed up as well?
    and theres a thing called multiple discs

    your rant = ownt
     
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    Bulldogxx831 Boredom at it's best

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    Just what I was going to say. Remember Metal Gear for the Gamecube. Such a perfect game that we didn't mind using two discs.
     
  5. PtonJalken

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    Yea, id much rather pay for a Dual Layer DVD game with 2-3 Cd's then a expensive 70-80+ $ Bluray game with 1 disk.
     
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    Right ok

    Xbox 360 games come on DVD-9 which can hold double what a normal DVD can which I think is plenty (if not I dont mind 2 disks) and the dvd drives can read at a good speed

    PS3 games come on Blue-ray which is a VERY new format and can only be read by the players at a slow speed, so if you have a game that fills up the disk - please be paitent as you will be waiting for LONG loading times..

    so it seems to me that maybe Sont have a seious problem later down the line :ciappa:
     
  7. Sovieto

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    im sure theyll be able to make it alright
    and i would think bluray would read it fast, since it is a blu ray player

    arent ps3 loading times fast? i heard that (someone who owns a ps3 please and not: pshhh no wayz it slow it sucks from some wii fanboy)
     
  8. GazPwii

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    here is a little quote I found by searching "PS3 Loading times"

    "Sony is using a 2x speed BD drive, working at 9 MB/second. The Xbox360 uses a 12x DVD drive, where transfer speeds are at 16 MB/second. Even the PS3 DVD reader is faster than the Blu-ray.

    Now imagine Resistance: Fall of Man, taking up a massive 22 GB, what sort of loading times can we expect? If there’s one thing Sony hasn’t openly talked about regarding the PS3, it’s the loading times."

    :sleep:
     
  9. Sovieto

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    gratz on facts
     
  10. GazPwii

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    Huh?
     
  11. Cabe

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    I mentioned that

    It wasn't a rant. It was a passing thought on which I wanted to hear other peoples opinion. Its also not an attempt at a dig at the 360 because although I don't have a 360, my friend does and I play it quite often. I like the 360.
     
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    well how about 2 disks, you play the first one (half of the game) to unlock the second and than you play the second dvd to continue further into the game and finish it

    good idea ?
     
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    :/ they've been doing that for years.

    You just play through 'DVD 1' Until it asks to go to 'DVD 2' , if you try 'DVD 2first itll ask you to go to 'DVD 1' until your up to the right point in the game.
     
  14. Sovieto

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    where did you mention multiple discs, i just read the whole post through again
    and call it a rant or not, it was, rants arent bad things always a rant is just talking and giving facts about something to prove it otherwise or along those lines
     
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    And I still wouldn't define that as a rant. Rant tends to emotionally driven writing (ie having a strong opinion on something)
    I don't really have an opinion either way. I'm not planning on buying a 360.
     
  16. Sovieto

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    okay sorry bout that, umm but i just want it clear i didnt say rant as a negative thing
     
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    Blu-ray is just flat out going to have slowass access times for a while. It isn't quit ethe same issue with Hd-dvd players which are just modified dvd players. I remember buying a dvd player when it first came out, and then a burner. They had crapass access read speeds then also.
     
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    *editted: apparently I tapped twice with my laptop so it double posted*
     
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    Dual layers can hold about 9GB, or something like that. I have no problem with multiple discs. There were few games that used multiple discs. Final Fantasies are FULL of FMVs that take up a lot of space and that was pretty much it. Other examples are Legend of Dragoon, Xenogears, Xenosaga and a bunch of other RPGs. I would rather High capacity discs next generation than to deal with expensive and unproven formats. Bluray is a good in theory, but Sony is to incompetent to handle something of that magnitude.
     

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