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Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ROB64, Jan 25, 2009.
omg tyler didnt u reed wat tampa sed if u dont like guns ur a pussy
i didnt mean everyone is. i just hate the people who take enjoyable things away from people. srry if i offended anyone.
When did I say you weren't being serious in the post of mine that you quoted?
This thread has officially become fail. At least we could debate in the beginning. Now its just a thread for Conservative pro-gun rants. Rob, Brawny, and the other people on the opposing side of mine, at least I could debate with you, rather than read a thread where I'm referred to as a pussy for having a different perspective.
So you're going to leave now that no one's on your side? There are plenty of people that are on your side.
Okayokayokay, the murder thing. It's a weapon. I won't let you guys tell me all this crap about using it for other purposes, because when it comes down to it, that's what it is. If I was sick enough to kill someone, then I don't think I'd indicate that I'm a scrawny little girl by strangling someone with a wire, you can tell that sort of crap, nor would I come at them with a knife. Either situation, I'd most likely be dead and found out. THAT'S NOT GOOD, IS IT? It's just easier to kill someone using a gun. You have high murder rates, and a lot of them are probably due to guns. I can't see there being more than one incidence of Jeffrey Dahmer in your country.
Granted, if someone was that bent on murdering someone then they'd go through all sorts of methods. You can't lie and say that guns aren't a dominant choice in the matter. You're just making it even more difficult for yourself.
To my knowledge, women, PARENTS WHO WORK WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPLYING GUNS, tree hugging peace protesters and... people who grow up in "cul da sac suburban pussy hell hole" have the right to an opinion too. People stupid enough to kill people would go through all that planning milarky, too much hassle.
And those who are for are blind rednecks who think the word "burglar alarm" means get dem der guns. Thanks for telling us.
"If you don't have the same opinion as me, you're a tree-hugging pussy". Yep, that's some brilliant debating there, Tampa.
Well you know he didn't mean to be sexist. Even though he offended pretty much everyone else who doesn't have the same opinion as he does.
Some people enjoy class A drugs and killing people. There's always going to be someone in the world who will get sick enjoyment out of anything. Think of something that some weirdo definitely wouldn't get anything out of, I doubt you'd find much. Humans are a strange bunch.
I didn't call you a pussy, so please respond to my last point?
This is why we'll never win...
Conservatives in general are more willing to go back on their own. For example, I disagree with a lot of what, this kid and particular, and even ROB say. As for the liberals, you guys are allowed to say whatever the hell you want, and if it's offensive, no one says anything.
You're conservatives, you don't have feelings.
Not always true. I'm not happy about this post from a liberal in the abortion thread:
Jokes, jokes. Sixty's still cool. I love the occasional Christian!
And on what Adam says, I honestly don't see stuff like that coming from the liberal side. And generally, the liberals keep the conservatives in check, and vice versa.
And Adam, I think you're waiting on a reply to that banning videogames thing. I'll put my spin on it. You can't kill someone with a videogame (cue people trying to convince me you can be killed with a videogame). And I don't believe that the videogame is the source of the aggression, either. I believe that the videogame has very little to do with the actual event of the crime, it just might influence how it's done.
Sure you can, take the game cartridge and beat 'em with it, or break the game disc and stab 'em with it.
The murder weapon thing has been discussed though. We've established that everything in the world has a chance of killing someone, mostly people. If you have an attitude about people saying "people kill people!" and all that, then you should realize that they're really not to be trusted with guns. You can't teach everyone in the world not to kill, I know that. But that's like parents telling their kids where they've hidden their Christmas presents and just believing that they won't take a look. Presented with the opportunity people will go for it. If not, they won't. It'd be like looking for presents in March.
Adam (right?), sit there and play FPSs.
And why can't the guns be the same thing? They were messed up kids who would have done something just as bad with something else.
Also, even if guns were completely banned, I'm sure they could have easily gotten some.
Very hard to kung fu your way to killing tens of people. And videogame playing kids won't be buying from the black market, tchhh...
...You could not mess them up by NOT exposing them to guns at such a young age. Parenting is not the problem when parents shouldn't even have them themselves. Clearly, we have a streak of stupid people going on in this world. Just restrict them and it'll work.
Too bad your country's too big and it'd be impossible.
OK video games...the rate of gun crimes is obviously much much higher than the rate of video games. I am saying that guns have been proven to directly kill more people than video games. I'm not saying ban everything that can kill someone, just the things used most often. If that means banning more than guns, I'm ok with that as long as its realistically to try and prevent deaths rather than prove a point.
Surely if two shooters in school can make you think that guns are evil, then two of us that were exposed to guns at an early age (myself and ROB for instance), can prove that it doesn't make you go on a killing rampage.
It doesn't always, but the fact that it happens as much as it does makes this kind of thing come up.
I think it's another case of overemphasis by the media that makes you more afraid of the unlikely things than the ones that kill millions of people every day.
Reminds me of a friend who was really worried over getting cellphone cancer, yet went tanning every weekend.
There have been what, 3 shootings in our lifetime? I'd take the state of Vermont over that.