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I was WRONG about Redsteel

Discussion in 'Nintendo Wii Gaming' started by Transfixed, Dec 2, 2006.

  1. Transfixed

    Transfixed WiiChat Member

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    I admit it. I jumped to an early conclusion about Redsteel. About the gameplay, about the control, and about the graphics.
    After playing about 45 minutes, I was embarrassed to have spent 50 bucks on it, I thought the graphics were about N64 quality, and that the controls were wretchedly unplayable.
    WELL.......
    It's just not true. I said I would come back and apologize for jumping the gun, so here I am. I am now thoroughly addicted to the damn game, and keep wanting to turn it back on and play until I beat it. SO THERE.
    All the reviews that say the controls suck just haven't played it to the point of getting used to it. Once you do, it's fun, sweaty-palmed madness.

    I think the problem stems from the fact that you have to keep your remote in a fairly small, tight 'box' while playing. If you move your arms or hands too much, and the pointer accidentally goes 'outside the box', your character may point wildly at the ceiling and/or spin uncontrollably. You basically have to keep your arms fairly still and keep things 'focused' well on the screen to keep control. Once this is mastered, things go pretty smoothly and game really does rock.

    Also, the graphics, while starting out mystifyingly boring and bland, get inclreasingly more impressive as the game goes on, I was pretty stunned at some of the scenery and level design as I progressed.

    I'm now about 8 hours into it, and would give it a Solid A-

    I learned my 'judging too soon' lesson, OK?!?! Now everyone give this game a solid shot, cause it's worth it. :hand:
     
  2. matperry

    matperry The French Canadian

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    yeah i played it for 14% in the game but was too taken by twilight princess. looks cool but i just don't like the mad pointer, jumping for no reason
     
  3. ilovemywii

    ilovemywii WiiChats Offical Druggie

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    had thoughts about getting it but most of the reviews sucked so I didnt get it
    I'll rent it and see how it is for myself...if I like it I'll probally get if for christmas
     
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    Kamikaze Certified Public Asshole

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    See, and you've decided to actually try out a game instead of ranting upon what OTHER people think about it. I am quite impressed.
     
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    word.

    10,000 fists is the ****.
     
  6. Squall7

    Squall7 A li'l bit different

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    That's great. I preordered a copy and was a little miffed at some of the reviews on it. Not that I trust other people's opinions when it comes to films and games (at least not reviewers persectives - they always have biases and never account for anyone else's tastes). I'm glad that more people are liking it though, as it kinda makes me think that it will be a good purchase.
     
  7. GreyKirby

    GreyKirby Fo-Weva Pink!

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    *goes to show your opinion to my brother who only buys things according to ratings*
     
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    But technically isn't this Transfixed opinion which is esentially a rating? And concidering he doesn't rate video games for a living... his opinion is less credible than a person that does this over 8 hours a day.
     
  9. ScuzzBuster

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    Im about 60% through now and the controls are finally becoming comfortable, but the game itself is still a little thin. It's just very repetitive and the AI is awful. I'm not saying that the game is not fun, just getting a little dull now. I think a good question to ask yourself is would the game still hold up if you were playing it with a standard game pad or Mouse/keyboard combo? I think if it were out for PC or any other platform with a conventional control set it would be a throwaway title getting little or no attention.
     
  10. MetroidZ

    MetroidZ Only took 4 years to get1

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    Yeah, true. but he's a gamer, not a person that rates games for a living and stops appreciating them IMO. I take normal gamers' opinions to heart just as with reviewers.
     
  11. Squall7

    Squall7 A li'l bit different

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    I agree. Reviewers have likes and dislikes too, and these will inevitably effect scores which unjustly effects sales. Some of the best and most helpful reviews are from other gamers (rather than reviewers), whom are into a particular genre. If you're a FPS fan, but a reviewer isn't, he isn't going to appreciate all the things that you do.

    Take this for example: Zelda negative review
     
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    I think that more gamers pay attention to what professional reviewers say rather than some random gamer. But to each their own I guess.
     
  13. Squall7

    Squall7 A li'l bit different

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    Yup. And you've just illustrated the origin of "hype".
     
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    Dude, do you even know what you say half the time? Let's see... a man that comes across pretty much every video game released on every console.... or a gamer that is most likely bias towards one platform. I know who I will trust more... but you can listen to the lonely bias gamer and have fun buying **** games. Let me know how it works out for ya.
     
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    yea i bought red steel becuse of the 4 player gameplay it has to offer i can only see fun out of that, but on another note it really hasnt impressed me much, its ok to me just expected more out of it. But im going to continue playing it and see if my thoughts change
     
  16. Squall7

    Squall7 A li'l bit different

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    Yes, "hype" is because people put soo much faith in what reviewers say, and it ends up being either better (underhyped) or worse (overhyped). I don't buy "****" games, I'm a gamer that thinks for myself, rather than allowing a person I have no connection with dictate what I buy and what I play. I've got a large selection of games of what I like.

    Oh, and let's not forget that the gamer (The one whom I would take note of anyway) is more of a peer and would therefore appreciate games in a similar fashion to yourself - especially if it's a friend.

    Don't get me wrong, I take the comments of the flaws of a game very seriously, it's just that I'd prefer to experience it first hand to see if it really does detract from the overall experience.
     
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    I think that goes as a given for any serious gamer. But I will tell you right now, there has been VERY few games that got terrible scores across the board that I can truly say had a lasting appeal on me. These professionals aren't around for nothing.
     
  18. Squall7

    Squall7 A li'l bit different

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    You're right. They're there to get paid for their opinions. Key word: opinion. Relying on somebody you've never met's opinion over a friend's opinion (whom presumably knows you better, and what you like) is a little strange to me. Half the time, the reviewer and the friend will be in argreement of what's a good game and what isn't, but when they disagree, I think it's better to listen to the person who knows you best.
     
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    I've read a few reviews now where people have given the game a second go, after scoring it bad, only to praise it. See what turns people off it is the that controls aren't the usual 'bash the button' method. Once you get used to it, it's said the game rocks. And i also read that if you place your sensor bar in the wrong position and can out the aiming off, so it's best to move the sensor bar around a bit until you find that sweet spot. Even if the bar is placed perfectly for other games.
     
  20. PersianCowboy

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    Does the controller really jump around randomly? Because in the videos I saw the pointer looked kind of Jumpy.

    Oh yeah, and are there ragdoll physics in the game? Because that would just plain rock.
     

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