wii the next dreamcast??

Kingofspades, have you tried using a Wiimote yourself? You can't judge it if you haven't used it. Maybe it's tiring, maybe it's not. I haven't seen any bad reviews of the Wiimote lately so i suggest you wait and see before making assumptions.

Also, clearly you are very narrowminded and even if you try the Wiimote, you will think it's a pin in the ass since you are already thinking in your mind how the Wiimote is a pain in the ass. If you were a little more open minded and try the Wiimote with a bit of neutrality, maybe even a little skeptical might be acceptable but not 'a pain in the ass'. Thinking that the Wiimote is 'A pain in the ass' is for narrow minded fools who haven't even tried the Wiimote.
 
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COLDshiver said:
Kingofspades, have you tried using a Wiimote yourself? You can't judge it if you haven't used it. Maybe it's tiring, maybe it's not. I haven't seen any bad reviews of the Wiimote lately so i suggest you wait and see before making assumptions.

Also, clearly you are very narrowminded and even if you try the Wiimote, you will think it's a pin in the ass since you are already thinking in your mind how the Wiimote is a pain in the ass. If you were a little more open minded and try the Wiimote with a bit of neutrality, maybe even a little skeptical might be acceptable but not 'a pain in the ass'. Thinking that the Wiimote is 'A pain in the ass' is for narrow minded fools who haven't even tried the Wiimote.
you know your probably right, ive been called stubborn my fair share of times. even if it is ""good"", i wont accept it unless its ""better"" then the xbox controller for these games. which is slim to none on the chance line.
 
kingofspades said:
ive confused some ppl, im not a sony fan boy, and you could also get into a big debate about ps3 breaking down. the only system im gonna own is xbox. shitty meening downgraded graphics. and impossible to play meening the wii controller isnt made for games that are more focused on sonys and microsofts control schemes. i have a feeling a lot of games are gonna be a pain in the ass to use with the wand control.

Nintendo's trying something new, like the did with the DS, and well look who won that battle between the hand held systems....
Nintendo is trying something different, if you actually knew your facts instead of just stating some games would be "impossible to play" or "a pain in the ass" then you have no right to judge the controller if you have not played it, which it seems like you havn't, just like COLD said.

Your graphics statement, who cares seriously?
The graphics may not be the best in the world, but gameplay is what its about for the most part right? Better graphics is just an added bonus. I think Nintendo should've put more thought into the graphics but thats ok, we don't always get what we want and im fine with that, i'm not gonna die. Be luck we actually HAVE videogames and gaming systems with graphics like this that we have now.

You seem like you havn't even given the Wii a chance yet, and it doesn't look like you ever will with the ignorance your showing as of now.
 
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Nintendo's trying something new, like the did with the DS, and well look who won that battle between the hand held systems....
Nintendo is trying something different, if you actually knew your facts instead of just stating some games would be "impossible to play" or "a pain in the ass" then you have no right to judge the controller if you have not played it, which it seems like you havn't, just like COLD said.

Your graphics statement, who cares seriously?
The graphics may not be the best in the world, but gameplay is what its about for the most part right? Better graphics is just an added bonus. I think Nintendo should've put more thought into the graphics but thats ok, we don't always get what we want and im fine with that, i'm not gonna die. Be luck we actually HAVE videogames and gaming systems with graphics like this that we have now.

You seem like you havn't even given the Wii a chance yet, and it doesn't look like you ever will with the ignorance your showing as of now.
its not that im completely ignorant. its not as if i dont believe nintendos gonna be a good system. it just doesnt appeal to me. and basically your saying the hundreds of people in this forum that havent even looked at a real wii (besides in pictures) never mind played it. are aloud to have there opinions about how great it is. and since your a nintendo fan i cant have mine about not liking it? so i guess this whole damn forum should shut down until the wii comes out right... then well all pass our judments.
 
kingofspades said:
ive confused some ppl, im not a sony fan boy, and you could also get into a big debate about ps3 breaking down. the only system im gonna own is xbox. shitty meening downgraded graphics. and impossible to play meening the wii controller isnt made for games that are more focused on sonys and microsofts control schemes. i have a feeling a lot of games are gonna be a pain in the ass to use with the wand control.
ya xbox is a great system, no doubt about it, but you cant really bash the wii controller till you've used it, and i think it will be good, i'm especially looking forward to madden 07 on wii, it will be great
 
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as we all know, the dreamcast was a flop. and if you compare it to the new wii youll notice that they aint so different. dreamcast focused on the younger crowds, tried to create bizarre games. but it just didnt work out. the ps2 came out and muscled it down to a third party half assed game creating company. now i know that they are trying to bring a new crowd to video games, like old ladies and ****...lol. but lets face it they dont play video games for a reason. with the video game fanbase averaging at higher ages then it used to, game systems focused on teen to mature games are definately gonna succeed better then a platform with high quality amature games with garbage or dimmed down from its original quality adult games. you dont see a 17 year old sittin on his lazy ass all day playing mario party.
you see him smokin a joint talkin trash and poppin off heads on call of duty.
besides 90 percent of those zelda fans are now too old and not interested in it anymore. nintendo the next sega?? i think so.... what about you?

PS3= Dreamcast
Wii= N64
Xbox= PS
 
Well, the main thing it terms of sales for the wii atleast is that it will apeal in all 3 target locations. Europe, Japan, and the U.S. The ps3 may have some trouble with Europe due to the delay and the lawsuits with lik-sang(which i for one to still not understand) and besides these new Blue Dragon bundles the 360 looks as if it will die in Japan. But the wii will be in all 3 places right away.
Also, when it comes the those people that havn't played zelda in 20 years, well they can now with the virtual console. I personally missed the nes, as my first console was the snes, so i will be all over those.

Plus, im not sure if someone stated this earlier or not but with the 360 getting a ps1 exclusive on xboxlivearcade earlier in the year there is a chance that if the wii even takes in early lead (which is really a guarentee with such a heavy outnumbering of consoles compared to the ps3) many developers of those games may really want them shipped over to the dream cast to make some nice cash. So, i could see the ps1, n64, every sega system and such all shipped to the virtual console during its life time. Nintendo could find a way of getting every console ever, excluding last-gen, on the wii. So, let's watch wii domination

So, for me anyway, there is no way the wii goes the way of the dreamcast
 
Ahh not at all!!!
Nintendo was long around before Sega.....Nintendo has much more....talent....
....What I mean to say is HELL NO!
Nintendo is way to smart to end up in Sega's position!
 
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Any market predictions I have seen are all merely statistical, based off sales figures of the GameCube and N64. What's important to remember is they're not based off the actual level of interest the console has generated.

I don't believe the thread starter is a Sony fanboy, he is too objective, as Sony fanboys are usually characterised by their groundless flaming. He is stating his opinion as we are. He thinks it won't do well based on certain observations he has made. I think it will do fantastically based off observations I have made. Only time will tell who saw things the right way, my friends.
 
yah we should me talking smack about other systems.....shouldn't we?
 
Not quite . . .

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this system wont survive on the faith of hardcore geeks, and that about sums up most of your comments. a hardcore nintendo fan trying to turn a cold shoulder on all of the facts, and having too much faith in a company thats destined for a downfall. kinda common among nintendo. see yall lata, im goin to have a smoke and play some call of duty hahaha.

I'm so sure about your arguments. I suppose you're a Sony or Microsoft fan and feel threatened by the Wii? You should. Sony is trying everything from emulation to grouping its console with the Wii (as Microsoft did first) to nullify the Wii's popularity. There is a saturation point. Most Wii owners don't want two consoles. Sony won't sink . . . but it could get a huge black eye. It could splinter into many smaller companies, rather than stay a conglomerate.

If you don't like the Wii, don't buy and play it. Also, for your information, I'm not a hard core gamer (geek). I haven't owned all the Nintendo systems. I haven't played consoles since PS2 . . . which I played once or twice before shelving. The last time I played a console more than once or twice was the SNES.

I'm 30 years old. The Wii looks amazing to me. I also love the memories I have of past game play experience with the Nintendo systems. Nostalgia is a strong thing.

My generation has been waiting for Virtual Reality for a long time. It was promised to be main stream by now. It's not. The Wii takes a step in that direction.

We aren't against you. I'm not. I just know what I see clearly and objectively.
 
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in touch with the wii said:
:mad5: :wtf: look man there are gonna be like 18+ on the wii there are games that are meant for everyone and nintendo is not gonna be the next sega they always beat them in the consle wars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i no alot of zelda fans that played every game since the start so :prrr: :mad5: stupid sony fanboy


hey, he makes a fair point, i hope all consoles do well, but we all know thats not gonna happen (so i hope ps3 doesnt do well coz thats the only one im not getting)
 
you are wrong in so many ways, unfortunatly mature games do not attract a mature audience.

I guarantee you every person crying out for more mature games are all teens or pre teens themselves.

I am an older gamer I opt for the Wii for one reason only and that is Nintendos constant commitment to the philosophy of gameplay over graphics.

This is what the Wii is about. Every single person who wants it to be other wise should buy a PS3 as this is truly the machine for kids with your mindless gore and swearing, over anything more deep than the pond in my back garden!
 
Personally i think King of spades is being criticized for his opinion, he's allowed on this board but he doesent have to like the wii+ maybe he'll even like the wii when it comes out because he took the trouble to become a user
 
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