England Smoking Ban

[Gaz]

youre right


who will i arrest if people were on the straight and narrow :wtf:

seriously though there are worse things than smoking ciggs. they are so common and tons of people do it everyday

welcome to society. if you don't like it, consult NASA for a pleasant stay on some other planet. just ask for marvin the martian for good rates

oh wait frogger said aliens don't exist

At the end of the day nobody owns this planet, and we all have our right to speak our minds. just so happens that you smokers in england don't have your right to smoke inside any more.

 

[Monsteroids]

amen loose...

so so true

i hate how everyone thinks smoking is bad,,

Wake up people there are things was badder than that...This is just the tip of stuff...gahh

LIKE POPTARTS!!!!! They taste bad and cause cancer
Or organized religion Promotes Socialism, Elitism, Racism, etc.
or even everyday antiperspiant! Cause cancer too, EVERYTHING CAUSES CANCER!!!!! :frown2: :sick: :scared: :cryin:

 

[BrandonMcAuslan]

Again with the pop tarts...! :lol:

Everything causes cancer due to the fact that the research into what causes cancer is pure speculation...
i.e. Say 25,000 people are surveyed have cancer of some kind (making numbers up here). And 25,000 people without cancer are surveyed. You ask everyone what they eat for breakfast and 20,000 cancer sufferers eat pop-tarts whilst only 8,000 people who do'nt have cancer eat pop tarts. Then you could take that to mean that if you eat pop tarts you are far more likely to get cancer...
But perhaps this is all BS due to the fact that it is entirely coincidental that these people have cancer and eat pop tarts. Perhaps they all own the same brand of TV. Does that give you cancer (the media would report it would).
In fact the biggest flaw in the survey is that ONLY 25,000 PEOPLE WERE SURVEYED. Not the entire population. What if 68% of the population eat pop tarts and only a very small minority 20,000 get cancer. And you just happen to survey that small pocket by random coincidence. This type of research is the biggest farce in modern medicine.

- The is the problem with these kind of findings reegarding what causes cancer. There is never normally any scientific connection established between the product in question and HOW it causes cancer. Its lazy journalism disguised as scientific research.

Rant over... :wink:

 

[Monsteroids]

Again with the pop tarts...! :lol:

Everything causes cancer due to the fact that the research into what causes cancer is pure speculation...
i.e. Say 25,000 people are surveyed have cancer of some kind (making numbers up here). And 25,000 people without cancer are surveyed. You ask everyone what they eat for breakfast and 20,000 cancer sufferers eat pop-tarts whilst only 8,000 people who do'nt have cancer eat pop tarts. Then you could take that to mean that if you eat pop tarts you are far more likely to get cancer...
But perhaps this is all BS due to the fact that it is entirely coincidental that these people have cancer and eat pop tarts. Perhaps they all own the same brand of TV. Does that give you cancer (the media would report it would).
In fact the biggest flaw in the survey is that ONLY 25,000 PEOPLE WERE SURVEYED. Not the entire population. What if 68% of the population eat pop tarts and only a very small minority 20,000 get cancer. And you just happen to survey that small pocket by random coincidence. This type of research is the biggest farce in modern medicine.

- The is the problem with these kind of findings reegarding what causes cancer. There is never normally any scientific connection established between the product in question and HOW it causes cancer. Its lazy journalism disguised as scientific research.

Rant over... :wink:

ummmm... POPTARTS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Nice rant btw.

 

[Gaz]

Again with the pop tarts...! :lol:

Everything causes cancer due to the fact that the research into what causes cancer is pure speculation...
i.e. Say 25,000 people are surveyed have cancer of some kind (making numbers up here). And 25,000 people without cancer are surveyed. You ask everyone what they eat for breakfast and 20,000 cancer sufferers eat pop-tarts whilst only 8,000 people who do'nt have cancer eat pop tarts. Then you could take that to mean that if you eat pop tarts you are far more likely to get cancer...
But perhaps this is all BS due to the fact that it is entirely coincidental that these people have cancer and eat pop tarts. Perhaps they all own the same brand of TV. Does that give you cancer (the media would report it would).
In fact the biggest flaw in the survey is that ONLY 25,000 PEOPLE WERE SURVEYED. Not the entire population. What if 68% of the population eat pop tarts and only a very small minority 20,000 get cancer. And you just happen to survey that small pocket by random coincidence. This type of research is the biggest farce in modern medicine.

- The is the problem with these kind of findings reegarding what causes cancer. There is never normally any scientific connection established between the product in question and HOW it causes cancer. Its lazy journalism disguised as scientific research.

Rant over... :wink:

There scientists not school kids. don't you think they now how to do there job?

You will find that most scientists agree with each other, and the media will say things that they want to. but it this case i doubt it. espcially as to how it's easy to test what is in the fumes of cig smoke. Some of those substances harmfull to us, so it's pretty clear that consintrated enough fumes could cause health risks to someone.

the one thing, that as a doubt that no one can really test is the cancer part, but passive smoking health risks isn't just about cancer

 

[BrandonMcAuslan]

I didn't mention smoking in that whole post..? Was talking about general goods for consumption that are in the news every couple of weeks for being a cause of cancer...
Smoking is a different story - As I've said before, filling your lungs with smoke even when simply considered from a common sense point of view should indicate that its bad for your lungs/health.

Also just because someone is a scientist doesn't mean they are right - there are contradictory scientific theories in every field. It is extremely hard to do a scientific study on the cause of an illness/disease, concerning large numbers of people when you don't know what the trigger for the manifestation of the disease is...

 

[Frogger]

blame the liberals

im sure frogger with all her limited knowledge can provide the nonexistant answer

Why is this taking a dig at my intelligence? It's nothing to do with it, scientists have proven that you can get cancer from passive smoking.

There are some laws I don't understand in the United Kingdom. But we save lives. Smoking isn't an accident waiting to happen, it decays your body through time and how often you smoke, so obviously we have stated that you are mature enough to smoke at 16. No, I don't agree with it and the government are now considering on pushing it to 18 along with the alcohol law. But, alcohol is older because of how people act under the influence, smoking doesn't make you believe you're a superhero. There's lots of things I don't agree with, like you can have sex at the age of 16, when the human body still hasn't matured properly. But, at least we won't deny people treatment in hospitals because of their financial state.

youre right


who will i arrest if people were on the straight and narrow

seriously though there are worse things than smoking ciggs. they are so common and tons of people do it everyday

welcome to society. if you don't like it, consult NASA for a pleasant stay on some other planet. just ask for marvin the martian for good rates

oh wait frogger said aliens don't exist

I did not say aliens didn't exist, I asked a question, for the structure of my sentence. Welcome to the english language, we use language devices. You have no idea what my perspective is on aliens. Most people in the astro-physics field do not believe in aliens, and they have their reasons.

There are worse things than smoking tobacco. But, you've just stated that if everyone does it, it's okay. No, it's not, you've basically encouraged the world to plunge in on itself. The yob culture of today will carry on what they're doing, but it's okay seeing as they have the ultimate power among everyone else because they come in a larger frequency than anyone else.

Fine, I just won't care for anyone's well being. I'm just warning you on what smoking can do, I find it uncomfortable to be around smokers, and so do a lot of people, it irritates your lungs and 30 minutes of exposure can make a difference, it's making public places better for people who have asthma, of course. I'll just stop warning you, I'm not affected by smoke, my country is smoke free indoors now, and none of my family smoke. I have my well-being.

 

[Monsteroids]

Why is this taking a dig at my intelligence? It's nothing to do with it, scientists have proven that you can get cancer from passive smoking.

There are some laws I don't understand in the United Kingdom. But we save lives. Smoking isn't an accident waiting to happen, it decays your body through time and how often you smoke, so obviously we have stated that you are mature enough to smoke at 16. No, I don't agree with it and the government are now considering on pushing it to 18 along with the alcohol law. But, alcohol is older because of how people act under the influence, smoking doesn't make you believe you're a superhero. There's lots of things I don't agree with, like you can have sex at the age of 16, when the human body still hasn't matured properly. But, at least we won't deny people treatment in hospitals because of their financial state.



I did not say aliens didn't exist, I asked a question, for the structure of my sentence. Welcome to the english language, we use language devices. You have no idea what my perspective is on aliens. Most people in the astro-physics field do not believe in aliens, and they have their reasons.

There are worse things than smoking tobacco. But, you've just stated that if everyone does it, it's okay. No, it's not, you've basically encouraged the world to plunge in on itself. The yob culture of today will carry on what they're doing, but it's okay seeing as they have the ultimate power among everyone else because they come in a larger frequency than anyone else.

Fine, I just won't care for anyone's well being. I'm just warning you on what smoking can do, I find it uncomfortable to be around smokers, and so do a lot of people, it irritates your lungs and 30 minutes of exposure can make a difference, it's making public places better for people who have asthma, of course. I'll just stop warning you, I'm not affected by smoke, my country is smoke free indoors now, and none of my family smoke. I have my well-being.

Shhhh Don't say that to a mod! :shifty: Mods are like gods, do not question the gods reasoning! :sick:

 

[Frogger]

Shhhh Don't say that to a mod! :shifty: Mods are like gods, do not question the gods reasoning! :sick:

I know, I must back down if I display a different opinion to that of a moderator.

 

[Monsteroids]

I know, I must back down if I display a different opinion to that of a moderator.

Quickly bow and apologise!!!!

:worship: Like this!

:smilewinkgrin:

mod rhymes with god..... raaandoomm.

 

[BrandonMcAuslan]

lol @ comments above... So true.

:lol:

 

[CCScandalus]

frogger, i'm confused about why you keep saying that the u.k. saves lives... how do you mean?

 

[The_Loose_Cannon]

oh please get over yourselves for having a different opinion. everyone is entitled to one but when you act like a snot about it or an arrogent jerk oh you best believe sweetheart i will shatter your little world and make you regret that you even started an arguement with me.

in america we save lives too ya know its not just the UK so do me a favor, when i go to the funeral of a police officer who was shot in the face tomorrow, ill remember that "oh whoops i forgot, i have to be in the UK to save his life"

get a grip

ETA- enough with your mindless babble of the english language. this is the internet. if i was to type a formal speech to say my supervisor MAYBE JUST MAYBE ill use correct punctuation and spell words right. in the mean time, im on wiichat. become an english teacher if i bother you so much. have fun with your red pen

 

[BrandonMcAuslan]

Only one person is acting like a snot and arrogant jerk around here...

Do I have to play moderator and ask can we please tone the flaming down and chill out..?

:mad5:

 

[The_Loose_Cannon]

Only one person is acting like a snot and arrogant jerk around here...

Do I have to play moderator and ask can we please tone the flaming down and chill out..?

:mad5:

yes play all you want. in the world of make-believe you can be a moderator all you want. either way im just proving that frogger is a snot for no reason. she acts all condesending.

and you dont have to tell me anything in regards to my tone- thats what i0n is for. as long as there is no harsh language and vulgar name calling, i see nothing wrong with my "tone"