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Smash Bros Brawl Sexist?

Discussion in 'Smash Brothers' started by Mingus, Aug 24, 2007.

  1. Mingus

    Mingus Any Mingus Tea?

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    I was just considering something interesting. I just watched the new update. Now let's say some feminist crazed mom is watching there kid play this game. And she sees that, most obviously the "Man" must save the "Women" and he gets to choose which one. Well I'm not sure if any one has seen our bureaucratic world lately but people have been real douche bags recently. I could just see one person being really stupid about the whole thing.
     
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    so. because two PRINCESSES are kidnapped. and you can only save one in time. that means smashbros is sexist. which later on in the game you'll prob save the other too?
     
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    Which is exactly the point in which I'm trying to make. But some idiot is going to make a big deal about it. People are just really stupid about things nowadays
     
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    ? I could probably think of 10 more games that are more Sexist. BTW thats how it's always been. The man saving the girl. I'm not saying girls dont have power but thats how games and movies will be based on. Sorry to birst your bubble there.
     
  5. Mingus

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    And I applied you. I'm making more of a point out of how ridiculous it is that that is even a possibility. I mean, just look at your comment above. You made sure to state what you meant just to make there were no problems. Which I think you honestly shouldn't have too.
     
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    What if you play the game as Peach or Zelda and kick everyone's ass:scared:

    They are playable charecters.
     
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    i just dont understand how brawl can be sexist. it dosent make sense.
     
  8. Mingus

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    Man, you guys have to pay attention, it's not really. But someone in their own universe would probably find something wrong with it. which is the main point.
     
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    Id choose Zelda.....transform into Shiek.....and whoop everyone in sight:lol:


    (Who said girls cant fight!?:wink: )
     
  10. Squall7

    Squall7 A li'l bit different

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    So what you're trying to say, is you're getting wound up about your preconcieved ideas about someone else getting wound up about their preconceived ideas of how a game that includes various (and potentially quite a few) female characters can still be seen as sexist?

    You have no idea of what feminism is about.
     
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    yeah this was a dumb point mingus. its not gonna happen.
     
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    There's plenty of games that would be targeted before brawl.
     
  13. Mingus

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    Considerably more games are far worst. You were missing the point about the issue relating to our overly Bureacratic society, which was the main point to my statement. I was making the relation between the problem and SSBB because something so small and insignifacant as that video or scene in the game could cause problems with certain women. There lies the true meaning behind my thread. I mean, think about just recently, some man ordered a sandwhich from McDonalds with the works as he said. He got sick because he was allergic to the cheese and sued. He never once requested no cheese on the sandwhich or said anything about being allergic to it. But yet he tried to sue them. He justified it by logic I don't even understand. Someone could do the same thing here or with any other game.
     
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    I completely understand what you are talking about, I just think that, until (if it even does) it happens, it should just be left and not thought about. Some people may think that you're saying it could be sexist, when I know you're not. So I think that this should just be left until some ***** actually tries to get Brawl banned for being sexist, like the woman moaning about Resi Evil 5 being racist.
     
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    Well then maybe "Smash Bros Brawl Sexist?" isn't exactly the title you should go with for the thread. If you're just using the game as an example then state that in your post as opposed to including it in the title, which makes people think it's the one and only game you're talking about.
     
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    Actually, the impression I got was that everyone understood what he was saying, but he just didn't get the biiger factor. Until someone complains, you cannot counter-complain.

    Right... Cos if you've got a problem with something, and you're female, you're obviously a *****... /sarcasm.

    If a feminist came up with something that nobody else initially saw wrong, wouldn't it be more intelligent to actually hear what she would say before countering it? Otherwise you just come off as an ignorant mysogenist.

    Also, I think it's not a good idea to compare this to Resident Evil 5, due to the fact that we already know about many of the things in this game, including any countering factors such as Samus, being very capable, independent and a brilliant example of a strong woman. Also, factor in that Zelda isn't exactly "harmless" and that whilst she needs to be resuced in some games, she also fights along side you. She is therefore far from the "innocent, incompetent girl" that you may be able to read into with Princess Peach.

    And to be fair, we're talking about a hypothetical problem and aggression with a concept not based in reality, rather than an already existing, and ultimately denied complaint (the response was in effect denied, and she was called a lot of things that quite frankly shouldn't have been said).
     
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    I couldnt agree more.

    Look at the differences between smash bro's and resident evil.

    A princess getting kidnapped by a giant piranha plant and then a plumber has to save her, or it could be vice versa, smash bros will have story mode for different charecters. What history is behind that? other then the stereotyped princess being kidnapped.

    But resident evil could be understood, an American soldier, in Africa, killing the people. Wih the history of slavery and human rights and such you can see a reasoning behind the outburst, it may not be 100% thought through, but you can see why she said it.
     
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    ahhhh i see where your coming from Mingus and i apologize. but i wont lie, i dont see any relation with Brawl and being sexist so i dont see anything of the sort happening.
     
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    I agree with Squall7 :worship:

    He knows lots of good big words.
     
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    The thing is, yes, there are people who nit-pick and look for every little thing to complain about but if someone were to be looking for a glaring example of sexism in gaming they would overlook brawl and target something else first. Also, if their argument was games presenting women as helpless there would be so much evidence to counter it that their point would instantly become moot. This is all besides the fact that the "save the princess" formula for stories has been around for ages and if someone were to really bring up their problems with it now and try to use SSBB as an example, their argument would be discredited quickly.
     

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