wow. to think of it though, everyone who worships God, even if they say "the Gods" they are still talking about one God. Since God is referred to many different things like the Prince of Peace, the Redeemer, the Healer, the Lover, etc.... They are still referring to One God since God is all these different spirits. So I have nothing against the people who say Gods.
Which Religion are you?
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I don't want this to be very long so I won't quote Squall7. Regarding my opening comments and your responses to them; your very right that it is people that commit the atrocities under their religious beliefs. With that said though mankind in general is a violent beast with tendency for war and violence and so people will use any fuel for fire that could be different religious beliefs, politics, or racial prejudices for example. Unforrtunately religion has always seemed one of the worst topics to ignite violence even in a world where we consider ourselves civilized we have large groups of people hating others because their Jewish, Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, and basically anything different then themselves. Organized religions themselves have dark histories such as the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. Imagine if their was one true god believed by all with the same universal beliefs it would be one less reason for people to kill each other over. But the world doesn't work that way and we have many different religions with the same fundamentals but they all have had their ideoligies abused by evil men and women. Since I don't know what religion if any is correct I choose not to support or believe in any of the religions.
When I say I believe in a higher being (for lack of a better term) it essentially means I accept their is a God but don't know him/her by name or what religion to follow. I do believe that religions in general share the same approach on how to live and I gladly follow their examples. Their are to many things in our universe and within in ourselves that can not be explained by science so I accept their is a creator because all things have to have a start from something. I come from a family of split faiths so I decided early on in life to not follow any but follow a path of simply beleiving. But many tragedies in my life such as my youngest son getting type 1 diabetes at 9 months and almost dieing or my oldest son who has fine motor skill problems and slight learning disabilities has left me doubting faith in general and left with more anger and questions then anything. But even through my doubts, anger, and questions my beliefs have help me get through times that I have felt hopeless. While religion has never been a moral compass for me it is for many because the world is not black and white and sometimes religion keeps a person on the right path.
When I say I believe in a higher being (for lack of a better term) it essentially means I accept their is a God but don't know him/her by name or what religion to follow. I do believe that religions in general share the same approach on how to live and I gladly follow their examples. Their are to many things in our universe and within in ourselves that can not be explained by science so I accept their is a creator because all things have to have a start from something. I come from a family of split faiths so I decided early on in life to not follow any but follow a path of simply beleiving. But many tragedies in my life such as my youngest son getting type 1 diabetes at 9 months and almost dieing or my oldest son who has fine motor skill problems and slight learning disabilities has left me doubting faith in general and left with more anger and questions then anything. But even through my doubts, anger, and questions my beliefs have help me get through times that I have felt hopeless. While religion has never been a moral compass for me it is for many because the world is not black and white and sometimes religion keeps a person on the right path.
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Ahh, now I understand how you ward off demons...Demon Slayer said:
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DRMARIO said:
I haven't seen this guys posts on demons but I believe in them without a doubt, if there's good then there's gonna be evil.
That's just what I think.
Atheists FTW!
Nah, nah. I'm kinda Atheist and Humanist at the same time. I just hate it when people give the stupidest reasons to try and prove that God exists. I think it's rediculous, the reasoning that they give. I mean, if they're so set on "God exists! He rules you!", I'll try and prove to them that he probably doesn't exist, or that there's a possibility that God might not exist. I just like NOT having to follow someone. I'm my own God and all that. I do what I want, no need to pray for me. If you believe in God, that's fine. But you gotta admit there's a possibility that he doesn't exist. Either way, I won't bug you unless you push something on me.
Oh, yeah. That's another thing. I kinda dislike most religions, for the sole purpose that almost everyone that has religion tries to "recruit" you into their own religion, and convert you.
Nah, nah. I'm kinda Atheist and Humanist at the same time. I just hate it when people give the stupidest reasons to try and prove that God exists. I think it's rediculous, the reasoning that they give. I mean, if they're so set on "God exists! He rules you!", I'll try and prove to them that he probably doesn't exist, or that there's a possibility that God might not exist. I just like NOT having to follow someone. I'm my own God and all that. I do what I want, no need to pray for me. If you believe in God, that's fine. But you gotta admit there's a possibility that he doesn't exist. Either way, I won't bug you unless you push something on me.
Oh, yeah. That's another thing. I kinda dislike most religions, for the sole purpose that almost everyone that has religion tries to "recruit" you into their own religion, and convert you.
Squall7
A li'l bit different
I mostly agree with you. Although I don't really like the way you say "most religions". There's quite a few belief systems that would happily leave you alone, or simply educate you if you enquired about it - mostly the religions that do not stipulate "saving people from hell" for their lack of belief.Koukin said:
I know what you mean about the reasonings. Things like "why we are here" and "how we were created", both of which are currently are plausable without the need for a God of sorts. However, I like to think that unlike some other aetheists, I am able to live and let live, so long as nobody tries to change me, I won't change them. There's always people with that outlook from every religion, which some seem to forget.
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LMAO!AussieWii said:
i think i'll put that on my sig!!
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Koukin said:
hmmmm... I agree, but I won't completely try to rule out that god exist. Its stupid to believe either way. Its stupid to join a cult that believes one thing. I believe in what I believe, not what a cult believes. I believe religion brews hatred, racism, elitism, socialism, and ignorance. thats why I'm not part of one and if someone is happy and part of a religion and not shoving crap down my throat and generally a nice person then I feel theres no reason to say theres no god etc. I suppose I'm mainly a Darwinist and not to super-hardcore extremesm as some people. I lean towards science. I also accept the fact that we will never know everything, also a great saying is "the more you know, the more you know you don' know".
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Squall7
A li'l bit different
Not every religion brews those things. Heck, politics brews those things too.Monsteroids said:
Also, why do you say socialism? socialism is left-wing. Most of the other things are to do with right-wing. I feel you're getting your "wings" mixed up. Funny how nowadays people use key-words they don't understand to associate something with being bad. Socialism is about bringing power to people in general. Communism (or at least "true" - i.e. non-soviet) is about bringing power to a wide group. dictatorships and fascism is about bringing/maintaining power to an elite. This is what religion does. So as you can see, socialism is more about democratic needs over elitist needs. To use elitism and socialism in the same list is to ignore what the words mean.
Also, those concepts are only brewed in certain denominations. There are denominations like C of E which do bend some of the rules. For example, my brothers' wedding was last saturday, and the preist was female. You would not get that in many of the more orthodox denominations.
Good to hear. Someone who is realistic about what science can and cannot do, and still supports it. Science literally works. It's how it's built. If something is found to be wrong, science changes, and therefore is correct. It the reason why science isn't a religion, but aetheism is.
My fiance gets New Scientist every week. Quite good stuff in there. Do you read it?
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TortillaChip520
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I feel religion is like a stick, and it treats god like a pinata. People try a religion and it doesnt give them what they want. then they find another, and it suits them; they open the pinata and they get what they wanted, and it works. for a while. but then when they go back, they find that it's empty. it shouldnt be about all the random rules that have nothing to do w/ the belief, it's the belief in itself is what matters.
Squall7
A li'l bit different
Interesting, but the analogy doesn't count for people who become indocrinated from an early age.TortillaChip520 said:
I believe Kevin Smith had the best analogy in Dogma:
"...faith is like a glass of water. When you're young, the glass is small, and it's easy to fill up. But the older you get, the bigger the glass gets, and the same amount of liquid doesn't fill it anymore. Periodically, the glass has to be refilled."
