Why I think PS3 will come out on top.

[Valley]

Hm...I have to disagree. With the momentum that Wii has going right now, I have a hard time believing that PS3 will be able to pull ahead. Though I very well could be wrong, my prediction is that Wii will be the dominant seventh-gen console.

 

[Squall7]

Give it up, Squall7. Rich/stupid people can't comprehend money. $600 is a lot for the average human being on this planet.

Sony said there are enough people to spend that amount on a system. Only time will tell.

Sure. I would prefer to end the "debate". Only I don't like people making snide remarks after they've stopped replying to me personally.

During a recent interview with Japanese economic website Toyo Keizai, ever-charming Ken Kutaragi had this to say about Sony's goal for the PS3: "for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else." In other words: Get a job! Get two jobs, ya lazy bums!

Source: http://www.joystiq.com/2005/07/06/sony-wants-you-to-earn-that-playstation-3/
Not exactly up-to-date, but to assume that people will want it soo badly that they'll work harder is a little arrogant. There again, the word arrogant has been used to summise Sony's PR for a while now...

 

[Skorp]

I'd give you Rep Squall but it seems I've always already given you some and it won't let me. I'm glad there are people like you on wiichat. Huzzah.

 

[alexgc87]

no replies for me? no comments for my posts? :cryin:

 

[sagema]

Ouch! Check out this article. Remember they aren't Microsoft. Sony can't afford to lose billions a year! It's a shame, considering how much money Spider Man 3(movie not the awful games) brought in. I hope this doesn't affect Spider Man 4.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6170776.html

 

[Squall7]

Ouch! Check out this article. Remember they aren't Microsoft. Sony can't afford to lose billions a year! It's a shame, considering how much money Spider Man 3(movie not the awful games) brought in. I hope this doesn't affect Spider Man 4.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6170776.html

Wow. Though analysts can be wrong, I think that it's a distinct possibility. I'm just wondering what the consequences will be. I doubt Sony will cut it's game division, but maybe some major reshuffle...

I'd give you Rep Squall but it seems I've always already given you some and it won't let me. I'm glad there are people like you on wiichat. Huzzah.

Thanx man. It's always nice to be appreciated. I've enjoyed reading your posts too. Though I don't think I've been on that many threads where we've both posted - other than the Muslim one.

Thanx, once again. :cornut:

no replies for me? no comments for my posts?

I agree, it is subjective. You raise some good points, and you provide good examples. You seem also fairly objective about your reasoning. Help yourself to an avatar and sig. (I take it from your name, you're around 19/20 years old?)

 

[tank]

interesting, but wrong. you cant compare the ps3 to the ps2. the ps3 will NOT come out on top. it would be lucky if it made it past the 15 million mark...

anything to support your claim with? Or was that straight from your ass?:thumbsup:

 

[Shiftfallout]

Squal actually i have had more success talking to a retarded chimp than talking with you. I laugh every time you waste your time typing out a response for every single sentence. The best part is, most of the time you are describing your own actions. If we were to take all your responses and look at them, you are so inconsistant its funny. Thus the spin you also put on responding, hell if i wanted to talk to a word manipulating politian, i would go to a political forum. Unlike you, Im smart enough to know im talking to a left wing nutcase and to just let him blow his casket on his own. I dont need to respond to you, and no matter how many times you whine about it, its not going to change the fact that you are not worth responding to. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know this "debate" is going in circles. I left it and you are still running around. =P

I still remember when you said you hate when people make conservative remarks. Admit it, you a left wing nut case hippie, who is more concerned about his own agenda than actually thinking. btw anyone see his picture? lol

Point is, I said my piece and once an debate is going no where, its usually a good idea to just leave it at that, which i did. Maybe you should try it too.

Some people thing the ps3 will come out on top, others not so much, but all I was debating is the logical reasons WHY it would be so. Dont agree with me, then lets agree to disagree, if not keep wasting your time. I have better things to do then play word tag with a hippie.

 

[Squall7]

Squal actually i have had more success talking to a retarded chimp than talking with you.

Probably because the chimp cannot tell when it's being told a load of crap.

I laugh every time you waste your time typing out a response for every single sentence.

Go ahead, I'm just countering every point you make.

The best part is, most of the time you are describing your own actions.

Any examples?

If we were to take all your responses and look at them, you are so inconsistant its funny.

Really? I don't see that, considering I'm not generalising.

Thus the spin you also put on responding, hell if i wanted to talk to a word manipulating politian, i would go to a political forum.

"word manipulating"? I know how to debate if that's what you mean. If you don't agree with my summary of your points, please, inform us on what you really mean.

Unlike you, Im smart enough to know im talking to a left wing nutcase and to just let him blow his casket on his own.

You know, if there's someone blowing his "casket", I don't think it's me. Also, "nutcase"? Lastly, you assume I have low inteliigence. Strike three I'm afraid.

I dont need to respond to you, and no matter how many times you whine about it, its not going to change the fact that you are not worth responding to.

So what's this post then? Whining is hardly the word I would use to describe this. I've had many people agreeing with me, and people usually don't agree with "whiners".

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know this "debate" is going in circles.

but if you consider this debating, then you're wrong. debating moves from point to point. You're just downright refusing a logical statement.

This was said by me on the previous page (for me, I've put my settings to get as many posts on a single page as possible - around 40 or 50 I think).

I left it and you are still running around. =P

Sure. I would prefer to end the "debate". Only I don't like people making snide remarks after they've stopped replying to me personally.

I still remember when you said you hate when people make conservative remarks.

I confess, It really winds me up when people say rather right-wing things.

Conservatism isn't the only right winged aspect. Fascism, Nazism, Nationalism etc...

Admit it, you a left wing nut case hippie, who is more concerned about his own agenda than actually thinking.

Actually, I'm more specifically socialist than anything. Nice try at stereotyping me. And also, I've got no "agenda". I do have a strong sense of right and wrong, that oddly enough doesn't reveolve around money.

btw anyone see his picture? lol

Ok, now you're just trying to be personal. Do you usually do this when you can't debate on the grounds of logical thought?

Point is, I said my piece and once an debate is going no where, its usually a good idea to just leave it at that, which i did.

Until you made a snide remark. Now I feel this is going around in circles too. I just hope you can leave your remarks out of this in the future.

Maybe you should try it too.

Sure thing. See above first.

Some people thing the ps3 will come out on top, others not so much, but all I was debating is the logical reasons WHY it would be so.

Indeed, and I disagreed with one of your points, that you wouldn't let go of, instead on basing your opinions on fact, you decided that I was wrong.

Dont agree with me, then lets agree to disagree, if not keep wasting your time.

Absolutely. That wasn't even in question, but to leave the debate amicably was. I agree to disagree. Leave it at that.

I have better things to do then play word tag with a hippie.

See 6 points above.

 

[Griever]

Admit it, you a left wing nut case hippie, who is more concerned about his own agenda than actually thinking.

Actually, I'm more socialist than anything. Nice try at stereotyping me. And also, I've got no "agenda". I do have a strong sense of right and wrong, that oddly enough doesn't reveolve around money.

Socialists ARE left wing. Either way, you're both as bad as each other. Neither of you has made a decent argument and you're far too obsessed with one-upmanship that you're now nowhere near the original topic the OP brought up.

But, to quote what was said earier;

"I laugh every time [both of you] waste your time typing out [responses] for every single sentence."

Eugh.

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As for the topic at hand;

The PS3 has cost Sony a lot of money because they made a big gamble on people not being put-off by the high price tag. The fact of the matter is that a lot of people were put off by the price tag simply because - at first glance - the PS3 is nothing more than an upgraded PS2 which happens to have Blu-Ray. If it wasn't for Blu-Ray the PS3 would have been a lot more successful simply because then it would be in the price range of the 360 and would still have many, many more features and many, many more games.

The 360, of course, has the same problem. It is basically an upgraded X-Box. The difference is that the 360 doesn't have a massive price tag attatched to it (at least not compared to the PS3's price tag) and so people were happy to buy it despite it's lack of any real gimmicks or special features. In many cases I think people bought the 360 just because it was the first one to come out, but that's another argument for another time.

Wii, on the other hand, does have a gimmick. But, more than that, it also has a damn good advertising campaign. Nintendo have managed to intergrate the advertising campaigns for the Wii and their other current systems (DS) together well and that shockwave of excitement - generated by what is nothing more than gaming propaganda - is one of the main reasons the Wii is successful.

Personally, when it comes down to it, the Wii's motion sensor idea isn't THAT great. Sometimes I would rather play the games without using the Wiimote because using the Wiimote makes it so much more of a task. Games like Zelda which I could play on the GC with more or less the same graphics without having to hold my arm up for hours on end for no apparent reason. Still, though, the gimmick is there to be worked with and some of the games are using it well.

(Wii Sports is like the new crack).

PS3's only "gimmick" is Blu-Ray and - let's face it - most people don't have the capabilities to use Blu-Ray to it's full extent yet. I have no doubt that it will be the dominant DVD format in the future but Sony gambled on it far too early. Just like the Dreamcast was way ahead of it's time so is Blu-Ray and game developers just can't do anything with it yet. Hell, the drive Blu-Ray uses is only 2x and no matter how much data you can get on a disk that kind of reader rate just isn't going to cut it against HD-DVD right now.

Besides, even if I wanted to get the HD crap working I would need to by a new TV as well as buying the PS3 and it's just not worth it. Without Blu-Ray the PS3 would have been a lot cheaper and a hell of a lot more successful.

Maybe not more than the Wii but definately more than the X-Box 360.

The only saving grace PS3 has is that the Playstation consoles have ALWAYS had the best range of games. The X-Box is very much focused around shooters and other games which could easily be played on a PC instead and, no matter what anyone wants to say, the Wii is very much focused around the child/family market (I know there are exceptions to both of these but they are the common trend). The Playstation consoles, one the other hand, have always have a decent range of games and that's why I liked the PS2 so much.

Hell, I'm probably even going to buy a new PS2 over summer rather than a Wii, 360 or PS3 just because I want to play Final Fantasy 12.

Blah blah. I love long posts.

 

[Haywire]

The ps3 is expensive if it holds no value to you. Generally people decide if an item is to expensive based on its worth to them. If a person is only looking to play games for fun at low cost the wii is there best option, but if they want high end console graphics they need to choose between the ps3 and 360. If the buyer is living on a budget with possibly no HDTV and does not care about the HD formats the 360 is a better choice because of its cheaper price and equal quality of games to the ps3.

For example I could go to my local BX and buy their Military appreciation 360 value pack for $450 which includes the premium console package, X-box Live Unplugged, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Project Gotham Racing 3, and year membership to X-box Live. Or I could go buy a ps3 for $600 which comes with no games or even HD cables. Even most department stores are bundling premium 360's with a game. This is one example of why the ps3 is too expensive to me because even though I own a 50" inch HDTV I don't care about HD or Blu-Ray formats I just want a great gaming console for the best value and to me those were the Wii and 360which costs $50 less for both than the ps3.

Which console has the greatest games is normally the biggest factor in which console is most succesful. PS3 still has some great exclusives but they have lost some big titles and most third party developers are going multi console which is great for gamers but hard on ps3. They are also competing against two consoles that have huge user bases at the moment but as anaylsts have said the ps3 is selling a little bit better than the 360 initially did when it launched but time and sales will ultimately prove if the predictions of the ps3 eventually surpassing the wii and 360 will come true. In my opinion Sony will still be hugely succesful but I think the 360 will be the more dominant high end next gen system but as long as the wii keeps up with demand and gets better games it will be the biggest seller.

 

[CyanRussel]

I agree, (who knows, that just might happen this generation, i therefore say, let the best console win!!! Hopefully it'll be the Wii..... Nintendo has been has been slacking eversince the n64 days! They need to get back on top, no offense to the other systems, lets hope they do the same thing, as of right now, nintendo is kicking ass and taking names!

 

[WII60]

i really dont care for the console war, i say buy a console you like, who gives a crap about sales

 

[mushroomedmario]

sony fired the creator of all the playstations
that shows a lot of confidence sony has for the ps3, they did this cause they lost 2 billion dollars, i do not think that sony will sell enough software to gain all that money back,

 

[CyanRussel]

i really dont care for the console war, i say buy a console you like, who gives a crap about sales

Well i guess you could say, ALOT OF PEOPLE!!

"Not including me, but sales do mean alot, if they were not saleing as much as they should be, wouldnt they be out of business by now!!